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 US elections: Nine key legal points—Rudy Giuliani

21.11.20.  Rudy Giuliani and other lawyers representing President Donald Trump’s campaign outlined their case on Thursday that the November. 3 presidential election was so deeply flawed in several key states that the results should be overturned in the president’s favour. True to their hatred of Mr Trump the Guardian wrote: First, while claiming Republican poll observers had been kept too far away from ballot counters in Philadelphia, a key Trump claim in a vital state which like others fell to Biden, Giuliani attempted to recite a scene from My Cousin Vinny, an Oscar-winning comedy from 1992.
Mr Giuliani said there was a pattern to the alleged irregularities in key states that suggested a “plan from a centralised place” to commit voter fraud in cities controlled by Democrats existed.
He said widespread adoption of vote-by-mail had allowed Democrats to take big-city corruption practices nationwide. “They picked the places where they could get away with it.”
Here are the key allegations the lawyers presented:

Source: Breitbart and Geller Report

9 Key Points from Trump Campaign Press Conference on Challenges to Election Results

1. Observers were allegedly prevented from watching mail-in ballots being opened. Giuliani said that many mail-in ballots were opened without observers being able to check that they were properly signed, a key protection against fraud. Those votes, he said, were “null and void,” especially where the envelopes had been discarded, making recounts useless.
2. Allegedly unequal application of the law in Democratic counties. In Pennsylvania, whose state supreme court created new, relaxed voting rules before the election, Giuliani alleged that absentee voters in Democratic counties were allowed to “cure” defects in their ballots, while voters in Republican counties, which obeyed the state law as written, were not.
3. Voters allegedly arrived at the polls to discover other people had voted for them. Giuliani said that many provisional ballots cast in Pittsburgh were submitted by people who showed up to vote in person, only to find be told that they had voted already. He alleged that Democrats had filled out absentee ballots for other people, hoping they would not show up.
4. Election officials were allegedly told not to look for defects in ballots, and to backdate ballots. Giuliani cited an affidavit from an official who swore she was told not to exclude absentee ballots for defects, and to backdate ballots so they would not appear to have been received after Election Day, to avoid a Supreme Court order to sequester those ballots.
5. Ballots casting votes for Joe Biden and no other candidates were allegedly run several times through machines. Giuliani said that there were 60 witnesses in Michigan who would attest to ballots being “produced” quickly and counted twice or thrice. He said that a minimum of 60,000 ballots, and a maximum of 100,000 ballots, were allegedly affected.
6. Absentee ballots were accepted in Wisconsin without being applied for first. Giuliani noted that Wisconsin state law was stricter regarding absentee ballots than most other states are, yet alleged that 60,000 absentee ballots were counted in the Milwaukee area, and 40,000 in the Madison area, without having been applied for properly by the voters who cast them.
7. There were allegedly “overvotes,” with some precincts allegedly recording more voters than residents, among other problems. Giuliani said there was an unusually large number of overvotes in precincts in Michigan and in Wisconsin, which he alleged was the reason that Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers had refused to certify the results there this week. He also alleged that there were some out-of-state voters in Georgia, and people who had cast votes twice there.
8. Voting machines and software are allegedly owned by companies with ties to the Venezuelan regime and to left-wing donor George Soros. Sidney Powell argued that U.S. votes were being counted overseas, and that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic software were controlled by foreign interests, manipulating algorithms to change the results. Powell noted specifically that Smartmatic’s owners included two Venezuelan nationals, whom she alleged had ties to the regime of Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro. The legal team alleged that there were statistical anomalies, such as huge batches of votes for Biden, that could not be explained except as manipulation — which, they alleged, happened in the wee hours of the morning as vote-counting had stalled. (The companies have disputed these allegations vigorously.)
9. The Constitution provides a process for electing a president if the vote is corrupted. Jenna Ellis argued that the media, had usurped the power to declare the winner of the election. She made the point, citing Federalist No. 68, that the constitutional process of selecting a president had procedural safeguards against corruption and foreign influence.
Giuliani said that the campaign believed that enough votes were flawed — more than double the margins between Biden and Trump in key states — that the president had a path to victory.

{ 9 comments… add one }
  • Cliff 21/11/2020, 5:22 am

    I rarely watch press conferences in full, but this one I did. The unwillingness of the media to treat these allegations seriously was palpable, as was their hostility.

    • Muphin 21/11/2020, 5:51 am

      ARSELING – from Old English earsling (“backwards, on the back”). That is an appropriate word for the Trump hating press.

    • wal1957 21/11/2020, 10:28 am

      I watched it in full too Cliff.
      The BIG reveal in Australias MSM was Giuliani and the hair dye running down his face.
      They ignored all else!
      I should be shocked but it is par for the course.

      BTW, the blonde haired lady that spoke first was extremely impressive. She told the media to basically get off their backsides and do their jobs. It was as though she was doing a ‘Kayleigh McEnany’ on the press. Excellent!

  • Muphin 21/11/2020, 5:44 am

    Giuliani may have concrete evidence of electoral fraud. However, he has to convince the Republican members of Electoral College that there has been a fraud on the Constitution, Democracy and the people of the State that they were elected to serve. Only they can turn this sham on an election around.

  • Penguinite 21/11/2020, 6:28 am

    How can Trump prove his assertions of fraud when the evidence has been destroyed? He’s never going to win in States that are Democrat Governed. SCOTUS must step in!

  • luk1955 21/11/2020, 7:11 am

    1 of the 3 main goals of Agenda 2030 is the elimination of all forms of representative government. Here we see the process at work. Create so much corruption in the voting system that people give up on voting and instead rely on some other method of bureaucrappy.
    The computer code has the answer. The cheating shows up in the computer code and shows that in several swing states that hundreds of thousands of votes in favor of Biden showed up in just a few strokes of programming of the code. The computers record every keystroke and other actions of the computer.


  • Cotter Pin 21/11/2020, 7:34 am

    The sting is in the tail – no 9.
    The 12th amendment states,
    The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.

    That is, if no one has 270 then it is one vote from each state.

    If, by the 6th January, court proceedings have held up some returns, then if the number of the highest vote getter is below 270 then it is the states reps, and there are more Reds than Blues.

    (I’m not sure but I believe that EACH return is accepted or refused by a separate vote from the Congress. So the Senate can reject even one that has been declared fair and square to bring the count below 270)

  • Ian A 21/11/2020, 9:14 am

    I dont know which is more disturbing — that there are so many problems with the voting system in Democrat states, or that the left-dominated MSM is so effective in whitewashing it all.

  • nev 21/11/2020, 12:08 pm

    In my comment in yesterdays Morning Mail: The Repository—Index #1, I pointed to the overarching play of Pres Trumps 2018 Executive order reprinted here……
    (Almost unnoticed, a little-known executive order signed into existence on September 12, 2018, by President Donald J. Trump. That order, (available at Whitehouse.gov) is entitled, “Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election.”)
    Essentially this appears to be a second string of attack with far wider connotations than all 9 points put together, as meaningful as they are.
    The fact that this EO is still in play seems to be a deliberate ploy by Trumps legal team. Maybe it is because the crooks are still walking into the trap, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
    The fat lady hasn’t sung yet, not by a long way.

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