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 MM’s forum for Delcons and Deplorables # 47

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  • Aktosplatz 10/06/2020, 9:43 am

    Jacquie Lambie, very occasionally, scores a Bulls Eye. This is a good speech concerning China.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQci1e1mkko

    • Pensioner Pete 10/06/2020, 11:03 am

      It is Akto.

      Jacqui Lambie has done a lot of good things as Senator, she bats hard for our military veterans and has achieved some success there. She also bats hard for Tasmania, doing deal with ScoMo to waive the Tasmanian government public housing debt. Refers: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-06/tasmanian-housing-debt-to-be-waived/11487230

      I think she is very good value as a Senator and certainly good value for Tasmania. This is the reason the MSM deride her at every opportunity.

  • eli 10/06/2020, 11:23 am

    Coronation Park and forgotton Statues of the British Raj
    Dear Ed,
    Morning Mail does not have a quite suitable post to attach this link to at the moment. If you google the subject above you should get a hit from blogs.lse.ac.uk showing what India has done with statues of people it has sent to the naughty corner. It seems a far better idea than chucking all that bronze or what have you in the river. I first saw the collection in the early 90’s in a not well known and lonely park on the edge of New Delhi. The City’s elders and wise people have developed the idea since it seems from the article. I think that it is a grand idea which has the advantage of review such that when a personality comes back into favour as sometimes happens the ediface may be trundled out again and repositioned in a place of appropriate merit.

  • Pensioner Pete 10/06/2020, 3:59 pm

    As the majority cry out to take this opportunity to walk away from the UN, as if on cue, in Senate today, the Liberals, Labor, Greens and Centre Alliance voted in support of a new open-ended unlimited funding bill for United Nations agencies.

    Only Pauline Hanson, Malcolm Roberts and Jacqui Lambi voted against the measure.

    So much for leadership in Australia, ScoMo, go now on bended knee, beg our forgiveness, and then resign to allow someone who actually has our nations best interests at heart, to take over.

    • Aktosplatz 10/06/2020, 9:14 pm

      I agree P/Pete. The UN as a whole, is hostile to first world western nations, particularly the USA, the UK, and ourselves here in Australia. At this moment they have control over New Zealand (Ardern) and Canada (Trudeau).

  • DT 11/06/2020, 3:06 pm

    Sorry BoM but there are weather records before 1910.

    And now ABC is publishing facts that contradict BoM warming deception.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/weather-record-reveals-more-snow-fewer-heatwaves/12339414

  • Pensioner Pete 11/06/2020, 7:14 pm

    The government letting all of us down yet again, this is what happens with gutless leadership.

    Today in the Senate:
    Pauline Hanson has labelled her Senate colleagues as “gutless” for not allowing a Notice of Motion titled All Lives Matter to proceed.

    Refers: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6163248618001

    • DT 12/06/2020, 1:05 pm

      When did the Morrison Government gain control of the Senate (numbers)?

    • Pensioner Pete 12/06/2020, 8:15 pm

      Statement from Malcolm Roberts today, for which our government and opposition should hang their heads in shame.

      Quote:
      “Today in the Senate I tried to present a Motion to the Senate but was denied by the government. This is unusual.
      The Motion uses accurate data from the 2020 Australian Institute of Criminology report into ‘Deaths in custody in Australia’.
      This report shows facts on Deaths in Custody which are inconvenient to those using indigenous deaths in custody to push an agenda.
      Unless the Senate relies on critical detail and context it results in a distorted discussion of Indigenous issues.
      Why would the government try to hide these facts?”

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 12/06/2020, 9:05 am

    Fawlty Towers banned from TV because it is racist. This has to stop.

    • Pensioner Pete 12/06/2020, 9:56 am

      Bots: I am afraid this type of action will not stop anytime soon as our state and federal governments are complicit in the destruction of society as we once knew it.

      This is deliberate as in following the agenda of the UN, for which funding from Australia was confirmed in the Senate only two days ago.

    • DT 12/06/2020, 1:07 pm

      I read today that the bans are being imposed by private sector businesses that are withdrawing programmes such as Faulty Towers, Gone With The Wind and so on.

      And as some at least know, the SSoros & Associates shareholders are influencing management decisions.

      Governments are also not responsible for the Communist-Antifa-Greens-GetUp-Others left activist organisations street anarchy.

      • Neville 12/06/2020, 6:26 pm

        .. except inasmuch as those govts (indirectly) fund the aforesaid Communist-Antifa-Greens-GetUp-Others left activist organisations

    • Neville 12/06/2020, 6:25 pm

      Yes, Bots, it has to stop. But I fear that it will not stop as long as there is the gaggle of lefty and socialist manipulators and controllers whose goal is to implement world socialism by the destruction of western civilisation and rebuilding their version of marxism on the smoking ruins.

      • Botswana O'Hooligan 13/06/2020, 1:46 pm

        Just reading in a USA publication where the “celebrities” and one supposes that means the acting profession, have donated USD 20 million to be used as bail money for the people rioting and getting arrested. One wonders if the celebrities gave any though to the fact that the businesses being looted are the victims, not the rioters.

      • DT 14/06/2020, 11:11 am

        Easy come, easy go, ultra-high income actors and sports people.

        Real world?

        What real world?

  • Albert 14/06/2020, 12:10 pm

    I have of yesterday cancelled my membership of Netflix and Stan streaming services and gave both a well deserved blast pointing out that their support of BLM and other such organisations calling ‘racist’ highlights their gross hypocrisy when it comes to supporting those racist organisations.

    • Pensioner Pete 14/06/2020, 4:03 pm

      Good onya Albert. Kodi may fill the gap for you, needs a VPN for security though.

      On another matter, in Queensland today, the LNP began the process of tearing itself apart over the lack of leadership demonstrated by Deb Frecklington. The backroom ‘boys club’ as it is often referred to has leaked this to the media today, whilst mentioning David Crisafulli as the desired person to take the reins of the LNP before the Queensland State elections 31 October this year. The LNP best get their finger out and do it this week!

      Brisbane Times online refers.

  • DT 15/06/2020, 11:25 am

    “The problem with this question is that it doesn’t take into account the cultural topography of colonial Australia. Australia wasn’t a single nation state during colonisation but actually a number of separately administered colonies. Whilst Sydney may have used a lot of convict labour, this wasn’t necessarily the case in Melbourne, Adelaide, or Perth which was if memory serves, almost entirely free settlers.

    The Indigenous people didn’t have fixed settlements but were nomadic hunter-gatherers who moved around the country according to the seasons. You couldn’t just go capture yourselves some “Aborigines”. It’s not like North America or Africa where you had visible fixed settlements. If you’ve ever seen the terrain of the Australian Bush it’s not something that lends itself to finding people, even those who want to be found.

    In short, as mentioned slavery was illegal, it was too difficult to manage as an institutionalised practise and the settlers had enough trouble finding enough for themselves to eat, let alone support a meaningful population of slaves. This was not a problem the Indigenous Australians had.

    You would find later that the Indigenous Australians did live in and work in slave-like conditions. But they were still paid, and often given (bare) subsistence. So it is a matter of semantics.

    If you are interested in early Australian colonial life I highly recommend “The Colony””

    Stack Exchange website

    • PW 16/06/2020, 9:16 am

      Saw a segment of Miranda Tapsell stating she’s angry and they alone cannot fix the problems (???)
      One minute they want whities out of any discussion and now they want it.
      I’m sorry Miranda but your mob are the problem, they do not want ownership of their crimes. No crime; no lock-up.
      She and others need to tune into Jacinta and her mother Bess but they don’t want to listen because the truth hurts.

      • DT 16/06/2020, 3:38 pm

        Jacinta Price is a very well informed, sensible and caring Australian first and foremost, and of Aborigine ancestry a very astute spokesperson for the indigenous communities.

        Also her mother Bess who must be praised for raising her daughter to become the wonderful adult person that she is.

  • PW 16/06/2020, 9:09 am

    WTF is it with the RP now?
    All of a sudden it decides to drop one off and not allow access anymore.
    Wonderful disqis killing their contributors off!! Oh, well, they can go bugger off…

    • DT 16/06/2020, 3:35 pm

      I am able to log on, I can mark posts up or down, but when I post a comment a notification appears that it is awaiting moderation.

      And the comment post then disappears next time I check.

      In the past I have been denied access when logging on and have changed my ID and account a few times before regaining access. But for about a month past not one comment post has been published, so I won’t waste my time posting again.

      I have noticed that many informative commentators no longer post there.

      • Neville 16/06/2020, 11:10 pm

        Neither do I, nor read it. With greatest respect to harry, it just aint the same after Pickering.

      • PW 17/06/2020, 9:13 am

        Yes Nev, I’ve lost interest in RP.
        Seems like its now a forum to attack each other with idiots eating others with the same outlook? Nothing has “considered thought” prior to posting.

      • DT 17/06/2020, 1:25 pm

        Harry never answers my emails sent to him @info as shown on RP.

        I agree, TPP no longer exists.

        RIP Larry

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 17/06/2020, 8:03 am

    It’s a waste of time for MM is far better value and no ratbags to haunt the place. Another good site is Catallaxy files tho getting a comment published there isn’t easy.

    • DT 17/06/2020, 1:25 pm

      I second that.

  • DT 17/06/2020, 3:48 pm

    Awkward revelations show left-wing journalists profited from slavery
    Analysis | Digital Editor Jack Houghton|17/06/2020|5min
    The Guardian has long celebrated the notion of the living paying for the sins of the dead. It celebrated when rioters tore down the statue of 17th-century slaver Edward Colston before lopping it into Bristol Harbor last week. But the anger against men like Colston has not stopped at their graves. Colston left behind wealth which has been traded, moved and inherited since his passing. The newspaper has argued we must “follow the money” and take back from those who profited from slavery. “We in the UK need to begin a national debate on reparations for slavery, a crime which heralded the age of capitalism and provided the basis for racism that continues to endanger black life globally,” an opinion piece published by The Guardian argued. “Protesters making demands of British institutions and examining the individuals who profited from slavery, must also follow the money trail to places such as Union Island. Our vision for change must be global because Britain, after all, was a vast empire.” Some of The Guardian’s own ideological brethren agree with that premise, so much so they are calling for the newspaper itself to be closed. A petition has surfaced outlining the sordid history of the world’s most progressive newspaper. The Guardian – originally called the Manchester Guardian – has not aged as well as one might think. The paper was founded by John Edward Taylor in 1821 who used profits from a cotton plantation that used slaves to start the business, according to British journalists. Reporters have even dug up old editorials in which the Manchester Guardian dubbed Abraham Lincoln, the original breaker of chains, as “abhorrent”. In another leader The Guardian claimed, “it was an evil day both for America and the world when he was chosen President of the United States”. The Sun also reports after Taylor’s death in 1844 The Guardian called for Manchester’s cotton workers to be forced back into work. Following the money is certainly tricky but, in this case, it shouldn’t be hard for modern-day Guardian journalists to grasp the logical conclusion of their own ideological pathologies. They must resign and pay back every cent earned from a company with such a racist past. Failing to do so would be ignoring they have been profiting from slavery for the duration of their employment. It is doubtful this will happen, however; they would probably argue their work is too crucial at such a tense juncture of human history. They are far too important to live by their own rules, only the masses must do that. The masses of course who are so ignorant of history that thankfully we have The Guardian to set the record straight. “The fallout from the symbolic toppling of the statue of the slaver Edward Colston, and his plunge to the bottom of Bristol harbour, was the most effective lesson many of us schooled in British classrooms will have had in the facts of the slave trade,” the paper wrote. “It is only those who would rather not examine the past who demand it be set in stone.” And did you once think Winston Churchill led the Allied Forces to victory against the Nazis? Think again. “Boris Johnson peddles a self-serving impression that it was the eccentricity of Churchill – and not the allied will and the sacrifice of tens of millions of citizens of nations across the globe,” the paper wrote. Ironically in the same piece where this Orwellian doublespeak was published the author had the gall to substantiate it with the following quote. “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” Image: AP

    Sky News

    • Aktosplatz 18/06/2020, 1:20 pm

      That’s good work DT, well spotted This sort of news should be on the front page so the Protesters can get to work on the ‘Guardian Must Fall’ demonstration.

  • seadogger 17/06/2020, 5:15 pm

    BLM matters but so does yours.. unquote

  • DT 17/06/2020, 7:11 pm

    Peta Credlin tonight on Sky News – Goldwind of China won a NSW Government tender to build pumped hydro dams. Australian companies missed out on price and because of “onerous conditions” applying to the tender. On the other hand the successful tenderer will have to pass the FIRB (Foreign Investment Review Board) scrutiny, and under the new rules probably will not pass.

    However, Terry McCrann made the observation that “Gold Wind” for Chinese means gold from wind, the company is a wind turbine business too. Terry pointed out that Chinese companies are prepared (as are most companies) to take a loss if they can identify future strong profits. In other words, electricity consumers ripped off again.

    What is wrong with modern politicians? Not all of them course, but too many in my opinion have little or no business experience, not understanding about revenue and producing taxable profits and employing people. Indeed, many are university graduates who became union or political staffers or similar positions with a political parliamentary career in mind. Why are they so woke? And after all the controversy about foreign investment, Paris Agreement and emissions reduction profiteering ventures and China exploiting foreign nations including Australia. And the outrage over increasingly higher electricity pricing but with high demand period black outs.

    Governments now willing to use taxpayer’s monies to bribe businesses not too use electricity in peak demand periods on top of high pricing. But politicians want to recreate a manufacturing environment and increase national security, don’t they?

    This has to stop, I am writing about NSW but the same or similar applies in other states.

  • PW 18/06/2020, 6:50 pm

    Heard a rumour that a bus load of measles infected people are on there way to the Northern Rivers region to counter the AntiVax bus. I’ve been told there off to the schools to see if Pete Evans crowd can fight it off with a lava lamp.

  • Albert 19/06/2020, 9:08 am

    I don’t read very much of the drivel in what passes for newspapers these days. I just read the headlines and that is enough to highlight the absolute lunacy and leftist bastardy that surrounds us and is shoved in our faces on a daily basis.
    The message I get loud and clear is that this once wonderful country has turned into a cesspool of very stupid and very dangerous individuals and gangs that should be exterminated if we are ever to see the sunshine again.
    The collapse of the education system at all levels, 10 year old children involved in lethal gang warfare and dangerous little bastards they are too, Get Up, the anti vax morons, the BLM fools and so much more that it is difficult to keep up with the idiocy that is running uncontrolled through our once fairly safe and peaceful landscape.
    And the sad part is that if you are confronted and endangered by today’s scum and you happen to kill one or more of them you will be the one in real trouble.
    Get up on your back legs people and pressure the governments, of which we have far too many, to do something about it. Make a lot of noise and see if that stirs our useless politicians into action before we reach the point of no return.
    Albert is very pissed off today.

    • DT 19/06/2020, 10:07 am

      We need a statue Albert, three levels of government represented, each figure pointing a finger at the others.

      Title: Responsibility

    • John 22/06/2020, 6:34 pm

      Not just you Albert and I agree with your comments totally. But by the time you subtract the Libs/Labor/Greens voters from the great unwashed, what,s left?.
      A few percentage points of patriots p….ing into the wind. And politicians don`t give a stuff about a few percentage point,s. Albert and John are both very pissed off today.

  • DT 19/06/2020, 3:16 pm

    Coming To Australia during the COVID-19 pandemic ….

    https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/coming-australia

  • Aktosplatz 19/06/2020, 5:11 pm

    Does anyone know if this aircraft landing using a ute for a nosewheel, is true or faked?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGUs-Dmt_k0

    It’s clearly on Youtube but some comments say it is faked.

    I couldn’t find it on Snopes. If it is true, it’s a damn good landing!

    • Biking Voter 19/06/2020, 6:55 pm
      • Aktosplatz 19/06/2020, 8:56 pm

        Excellent!! Many thanks BV

    • Cliff 20/06/2020, 6:48 am

      I’d say certainly faked, (the aircraft doesn’t look like any widebody I have ever seen).

      However, I can say with certainty attest that something similar did happen back in the late 70s or early 80s right here in Australia. The pilot of a light twin (I think it was a Cessna 412; it might have been a 310) operated by Hazelton Airways, returned to its home base in Cudal NSW unable to get its nose wheel to fully extend. The young pilot, Ewan Simpson, (apologies if I got the name wrong; relying on a sometimes addled memory here), circled the airport as he conferred with the boss, Max Hazleton.

      Max came up with the idea of stringing a rope between two vehicles, which would roar down each side of the (at Cudal, VERY narrow and not very long) runway while Ewan would do a ‘touch and go’ landing, keeping his nose wheel off the ground until slightly overtaking the two cars and the rope. The cars would then accelerate, snag the nose wheel strut and pull the nose wheel fully down.

      I don’t know how many attempts it took them to get it right, (or how close to the propellers that ### rope might have got), but it worked and they got the nose wheel to extend fully and Ewan made a successful landing with no damage to the aeroplane.

      DCA (today’s CASA, whatever their name was back then) were horrified and made their displeasure known to Max in no uncertain terms, and poor Ewan was worried sick they’d pull his licence, but they didn’t, and Max didn’t mind – a nasty letter and a rap over the knuckles from the safety regulator in Canberra was way preferable to a big repair bill for one of his aeroplanes.

      I think there are photos out there, (no video, unfortunately), of the two cars speeding down the runway verges with the Cessna, nose high, very close between them.

      Ewan Simpson went on to fly for Ansett, at least until 1989. I don’t know which way he jumped in the aftermath of that unpleasantness.

  • Albert 20/06/2020, 9:35 am

    Ignorance and stupidity that is almost unbelievable:

    https://youtu.be/tm86QPhCwFchttps:

  • Aktosplatz 21/06/2020, 10:15 pm

    The Original Glenn Miller Band with Moonlight Serenade and I know why

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivF2KhS14F0&list=RDc2aqHGaSxRI&index=4
    (From the movie Sun Valley Serenade 1941)

    and In the Mood from the same Movie

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKb-qfwbZ2M&list=RDc2aqHGaSxRI&index=5

    And ‘ Chatanooga Choo Choo (From the movei Sun Valley Serenade 1941)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aj0zhXlLA&list=RDc2aqHGaSxRI&index=9

  • John 22/06/2020, 6:14 pm

    You know what p,eed me off yesterday at Bunnings?. Had to buy a replacement Screen Door lock. Usually chinese ones are in the $40 range and Whitco by Assa Abloy, Aust made around $70. No Whitco ones stocked but Yale ones marked “Whitco” type were. Bought one, identical to Whitco, $73 but made in CHINA. Assa Abloy are supplying and Bunnings selling chinese made stuff at Australian made prices. Trouble is there is no option.

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 23/06/2020, 9:38 am

    Just saw the fake aeroplane bizzo. The TTS (target threshold speed) at the fifty foot flare height for a “real” aeroplane about that size would be about 130 knots or 240 kph and I don’t know of any ute that can go that fast.

  • Pensioner Pete 24/06/2020, 7:30 am

    The way city folk are treated in comparison to the way rural folk are treated is on display during this Chinese Wuhan Virus armageddon.

    The link explains why PP gets so bloody cranky at the double standards of government, in particular Scott Morrison, the Prime Minister who does nothing but waffle on about drought, bushfires and floods whilst achieving nothing of benefit to those affected.

    Refers: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-23/employment-wage-subsidies-farmers-drought-assistance/12356446

  • Pensioner Pete 24/06/2020, 8:55 am

    How amazing.

    WeatherZone draws data from BoM and this morning showed the minimum was 0.2 Celcius, whilst the BoM site shows the minimum as 4.7 Celcius.

    Similar happened yesterday and for eons past.

    Surely, BoM are not manipulating temperature data?

    How Dare They! )-:

    • Botswana O'Hooligan 24/06/2020, 9:44 am

      I can’t make head or tail of them PP. Was awake most of the night due pain from face surgery so I placed the BOM temp site on the desktop and checked it out each ten minutes or so. At about 0330 it was +4.7C at the local station but checking the site after reading your comment just now the lowest is published at +6.4C!

      • Pensioner Pete 24/06/2020, 10:43 am

        Bots: Strange indeed. I noticed WeatherZone have changed the minimum to +4.6 C for today, so it seems they are in on the scam too. I took screenshots this morning to ensure I have proof of my claim.

    • DT 24/06/2020, 1:22 pm

      BoM manipulates the best weather station creative accounting practises and has adopted software used by the IPCC to model a warming trend.

      So BoM must be right.

  • Albert 24/06/2020, 2:48 pm

    The ‘Racist’ lunatics have escaped from their cage yet again and now claim that chess should be banned because it is racist.

    • Aktosplatz 25/06/2020, 7:41 am

      I wonder what they would suggest as an alternative – Light Blue vs Dark Blue?

      You couldn’t make this up

    • Bwana Neusi 25/06/2020, 12:14 pm

      As a good friend responded.
      “People should not play chess. It is clearly a poorly disguised proxy for bloody and violent warfare, and (at least as the game currently stands, before we reform it), there is a winner and a loser, which is damaging to the self-image of the loser, and may be used as a basis for increased privilege and unfair reward for the winner. The two players, and ideally two TEAMS of PARTICIPANTS, should involve each other in frank and open discussion and consultation throughout the event, in order to achieve satisfying and entirely mutually beneficial results with a more or less equal outcome (the word “stalemate” must be deleted from our vocabulary). Those not taking part with good humour and a determination to pillory anyone not seen to be contributing in the nicest possible way must be beaten to death after being publicly humiliated several times first.”

      Alternatively have rainbow coloured chess pieces and both players start together.

      • Neville 25/06/2020, 4:52 pm

        LOL!

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 25/06/2020, 7:59 am

    You know, I attempted to comment in the “Australian” yesterday about BLM stuff along the lines of I wished that I had dark skin since I am criss crossed with scars from skin cancer ops and my face is swathed in bandages right now. Rejected in a nanosecond!! Mind you, ‘spose it is their newspaper but how a comment like that could upset a bunch of people who in the main probably can’t read OR if they could, probably wouldn’t buy the Australian anyhow, is beyond comprehension.

    • Biking Voter 25/06/2020, 3:38 pm

      In the interests of balance and fairness wouldn’t it be noice if we had “Right wing meedja” organisations that banned and censored lefty comments.

  • Albert 25/06/2020, 8:54 am

    The brain-dead have levelled their sights on Minties. Those wonderful tasty treats are ‘RACIST’ don’t you know because they are white.

  • Pensioner Pete 26/06/2020, 7:33 am

    I often bang on about how Scott Morrison is not a leaders bootlace. In defence of my claims, one needs to compare the USA vs Australia during this current Armageddon.

    Copy and paste from the Presidents’ newsletter below, then compare with our PM’s performance, and I am sure many will see where I am coming from and realise why I am so cranky at our clear lack of national leadership provided by Scott Morrison.

    Trump must deal with the states as does our PM, so why is Australia continuing as it is instead of being wrenched from the clutches of China and why is not our industry and manufacturing returning?

    Quote:
    “Today, President Trump becomes the first American president to visit the city of Marinette, Wisconsin. Marinette was recently awarded a $5 billion Navy shipbuilding contract, which will result in up to 1,000 new manufacturing jobs for the area.

    “We will see years of growth as a direct result,” Marinette Mayor Steve Genisot says.

    Under President Trump, America is rebuilding our military, reviving our manufacturing sector, and reshoring our critical supply chains. Small communities across the American Heartland have come roaring back to life as a result.

    This “Buy American, Hire American” philosophy is helping our economy recover quickly and strongly from the Coronavirus, too. Whereas the Great Recession and Obama nonrecovery hurt middle-class jobs and wages for years, the pro-growth Trump Economy is already shattering expectations once again.

    Last month, economists predicted that America would lose 2.5 million jobs. Instead, our country added 7.5 million of them—the largest single-month gain in U.S. history.”

    • John 26/06/2020, 10:13 am

      Yes, it`s chalk and cheese PP, isn,t it. You would have to say Pres. Trumps personal traits are a little rustic but that`s not the question. The question is what is his performance as a President. On that he is so far in front of Morrison and all other western leaders its white and black. Hang on, let me rephrase that, brindle and brown, nah, um RGB to be electronical, nah oh stuff it all.

  • Tom 27/06/2020, 6:41 am

    Botswana O’H, take a look at the link provided by Cliff (second last comment) about the fake Pakistani pilot licence over on the Michael Smith site. Might bring a chuckle or two to anyone who did time in the Sandpit or the Fragrant Harbour.

    The translation provided in the comments section by Wiiley might be helpful.

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/06/30-of-pilots-have-fake-license-paid-others-to-take-exams-pakistan-aviation-minister.html#comments

    • Tom 27/06/2020, 6:47 am
      • Botswana O'Hooligan 27/06/2020, 9:13 am

        A great read Tom, I hadn’t seen that one. The auto camels from Toulouse are a mystery and when TAA got the A-300 everyone and their dog flocked to Tulla to see it arrive but it got the idea into its electronic guts that it wasn’t going to land and “went around.” The Ansett blokes had one refuse to land when they were first training on it too. Then of course we had the Strasbourg chainsaw at the airshow when one WOULDNT go around and chopped into the pine forest. We Australians at least are more in tune with USA built stuff and systems but God only knows what goes on in the minds of the people at Airbus. When you push or pull at something you expect it to do what you have told the bloody thing to do, not have a mind of it’s own. Boeing aren’t a lot better as we have seen with their latest offering, bean counters calling the shots does it every time.

      • Cliff 27/06/2020, 12:55 pm

        Bots, a mate of mine went onto the A380 after ten+ years on the Ttriple7. I asked him how he found being back on ‘the Booess’ after all those years flying Boeings.

        His answer was illuminating. “The Boeing’s like a bloke. You tell it want you want it to do and it does it. The Airbus is like a female. You tell it want you want it do do and it says: ‘I’ll think about it’. And, like a woman, there’s no guarantee, after ‘thinking about it’, that it will do what you asked of it. ”

        Back to ‘The Caravan’, I hadn’t read it in decades, but perhaps surprisingly, found that it had ‘travelled well’ with time.

        Poor old Marcel Hardsell must be on a lean paddock these days with the cancellation of A380 production.

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 27/06/2020, 8:19 am

    The Korean War. The bloke who taught me to fly was an ex 77 Squadron pilot, Mustangs and then Meteors. We used to go fishing in his dinghy down around the bar at Jumpinpin and he would talk about Korea. He told me of the NK’s embedding refugees in columns of troops coming south and how the pilots wouldn’t strafe the columns because of the old folks, women, and kids. Then they had to, grit their teeth and get stuck into it. He opined that the Packard built Merlin engines were better than the Rolls Royce ones in that a Packard would run longer if the glycol coolant was lost due to damage, he said that if you got a coolant leak in a Packard you put the mixture into full rich and the engine would have to be just about red hot before it seized. He “bought” a Korean teenaged girl for apparently in those days girls were considered worthless and sold as a labourer or into a whore house. He paid for her to be boarded and schooled and she inadvertently saved his life for she either had made or bought a silk scarf and gave it to him for most fighter pilots wore a silk scarf so that they neck skin wouldn’t abrade from constant turning. He had an engine shot clean out of his Meteor one day and was losing control of it because the force needed to hold the stick over was too much and there was no way he wanted to bail out so he tied the stick to something on the sidewall of the cockpit with his silk scarf and brought the aeroplane back to base. Those ex 77 squadron pilots were bloody good stick and rudder men and that flying instructor and later on the ex WW2 bomber blokes who taught me my trade did a good job for all of us they trained had long careers in aviation, over fifty for me.

    • PW 27/06/2020, 8:42 am

      Interesting read BO
      What a great guy.

    • Pensioner Pete 27/06/2020, 9:00 am

      Thanks Bots, you certainly have had some adventures which make for good reading.

  • Albert 27/06/2020, 2:16 pm

    Ita Bumfluff has declared that , “There is a reason why the majority of Australians trust the ABC.” Must be true if Ms Bumbluff said so.

  • DT 27/06/2020, 4:44 pm

    8th July, 2018 – Dr David Carland, Executive Director of Australian Resources Development Limited, says a graph on the official Snowy-Hydro website proves that Turnbull’s Snowy-Hydro 2.0 policy requires rising electricity prices:

    “On Snowy’s own website, to demonstrate the viability of their particular project, they put up a graph that shows Snowy prospers in a world of rising prices…This is a modelling world that has no new coal, has coal-fired power stations shutting, has us meeting Paris, and has renewables coming in. So whilst the graph says Snowy 2.0, as a project, can work, it’s also telling the rest of us that we’re in for a very long period of high prices.”

    stopturnbull

  • Biking Voter 28/06/2020, 12:28 pm

    If Shit sack Moselmane is being investigated by ASIO for having possibly naughty dealings with the Chinese Cancer Party how is it that Xi Dung Dan has so far avoided scrutiny?

  • DT 28/06/2020, 2:24 pm

    06/2020|6min
    Liberal Senator James McGrath says if the UN was a state or federal body “we’d probably have a royal commission into it” as it is clearly not “fit for purpose”. “I just don’t know what it does,” he said. Criticism of international bodies has reached fever pitch during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, primarily after the World Health Organisation’s handling and reaction to the virus. Advance Australia Director Liz Storer told Sky News the UN is unelected and “all we ever get is lectured by them”. There is an “endless stream of other countries” with massive human rights abuses records including China, yet “Australia keeps getting whipped over the ears about all sorts,” she said. Image: AP

    Sky News

    • Aktosplatz 29/06/2020, 9:03 am

      The UN became an Organisation of Despotic Rulers since the 1950 as former colonies achieved independence and their rulers assumed places in the General Assembly and on occasion, the Security Council.

      Such rulers were funded by the Communist Bloc and therefore sang the tune of their money providers. They still do.

      And so we saw the likes of Obote, Amin, Gaddafi, Mugabe, and others being feted and pushed into prominence on the World Stage.

      A former Secretary General, Kurt Waldheim was an active Nazi, so what do you expect?
      I wish we weren’t even a member.

  • seadogger 30/06/2020, 6:09 am

    The NRA have stated that they 600 Million weapons available and 27 Trillion rounds of ammo.. should be an interesting engagement

  • DT 01/07/2020, 1:27 pm

    Wind & Solar???

    From a JoNova contributor …

    Rowjay
    July 1, 2020 at 7:41 am · Reply
    A significant wind stagnation event lasting from about 15:00 hrs on Tuesday 23rd to 18:00 hrs on Sunday 28th (more than 5 days!) occurred in eastern Australia this week. This resulted in the halving of the ACT Renewables mix capacity factor from 42% last week to 20% this week. Millmerran also fell back – from 100% last week to a still impressive 97% this week. Daily performance and weekly summary as follows:
    :
    ACT 100% Renewables – Total Nameplate – 613.5 MW from 133,000 solar panels and 186 wind turbines
    :
    Date : MWh produced : Capacity Factor
    22/06/2020 : 7,093 : 48%
    23/06/2020 : 4,568 : 31%
    24/06/2020 : 2,300 : 16%
    25/06/2020 : 2,130 : 14%
    26/06/2020 : 541 : 4%
    27/06/2020 : 1,586 : 11%
    28/06/2020 : 2,017 : 14%
    Weekly sum : 20,234 : 20%
    :
    compared to Unit 2 of the black coal supercritical Millmerran Power Station (MPP_2) , with:
    Nameplate capacity – 426 MW from one 17 year old unit
    :
    Date : MWh produced : Capacity Factor
    22/06/2020 : 9,872 : 97%
    23/06/2020 : 9,690 : 95%
    24/06/2020 : 9,579 : 94%
    25/06/2020 : 9,915 : 97%
    26/06/2020 : 9,848 : 96%
    27/06/2020 : 9,790 : 96%
    28/06/2020 : 10,391 : 102%
    Weekly sum : 69,085 : 97%
    :
    I present these figures in the hope that others will truely appreciate how variable the wind patterns are in our part of the world as I do now, and how reliable the output is from traditional generators. Relying on wind and solar without an equivalent capacity as backup is a pointless, grid de-stabilising high cost exercise. So far this month, there have been 10 wind stagnation events lasting from a couple of hours to 5 days. On 6 occasions during these stagnation events, wind output was negative – presumably the towers were drawing on the grid to keep spinning while waiting for a breeze. Thanks to TonyfromOZ for educating me on the renewables situation.

    Wouldn’t it be great to have an Aneroid-type presentation on the TV news reporting on renewables power output for the previous 24 hours as part of the weather report.

    (Capacity Factor is according to the AEMO around 30% for wind, less for solar, being the Installed Capacity also known as Nameplate Capacity average real energy production)

    • Botswana O'Hooligan 03/07/2020, 8:30 am

      Yairs DT, but to simplify things about wind, we would still be using sailing ships and windmills to grind grain etc. We aren’t because the wind isn’t as efficient as the constant supply produced by electricity generated by fossil fuels.

  • DT 03/07/2020, 1:38 pm

    From JoNova;

    Why are US COVID-19 cases rising so high?

    And I ask you to consider President Trump’s “joke” about the more they test the more there are.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/07/02/explosive-about-all-these-new-positive-covid-cases-state-health-departments-manipulating-data-changing-definitions/

  • DT 03/07/2020, 1:51 pm

    Sky News

    02/07/2020|5min
    After being ridiculed by mainstream media and the “internet’s toilet door” Twitter, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has been vindicated as his statement declaring slavery not existing in Australia has been proven factual, says Sky News host Paul Murray. On June 11 the prime minister told 2GB host Ben Fordham, Australia was founded “on the basis that there’d be no slavery”. “When Australia was established, yeah sure it was a brutal settlement … but there was not slavery in Australia”. This statement cued the “well-oiled outrage machine” with which the media was happy to oblige according to Mr Murray. In conjunction with RMIT University in Melbourne, the ABC did a fact-check on the prime minister’s statements, and found he statements “checked out”. “Mr Morrison’s claim checks out … Arthur Phillip, the first governor of the new colony, declared that among the first laws he would like enacted was that there could be no slavery and no slaves,” the article read. Mr Murray said the “most anti-government media organization and the university sector who would love to prove this prime minister wrong, they say that his claim checked out”. “No one’s pretending this was fun times but when everyone’s trying to click and drag what’s happening in America or the ‘deep dark south’ of America, it has to be here right?”. Image:

    • luk1955 06/07/2020, 8:46 am

      What Scott didn’t mention is that we are now slaves of the bankers, the elite, and the large multinationals that run the world’s governments. And not to forget big pharma who want to vaccinate us with useless and destructive vaccines, and to chip us as well as eliminate the use of cash. Cash is essential to a free people. Digital cash is all enslaving as you can guarantee that the banks will use the power to dictate how you spend your money.

  • DT 03/07/2020, 3:22 pm
    • Albert 04/07/2020, 9:35 am

      Why build wind farms at all?????
      Victoria could well be thinking along the lines of offshore monstrocities because the state is already awash with those outlandishly expensive environmental, agricultural and health destroying disasters.
      Peta Credlin on Tuesday exposed a 90 wind turbine disaster being constructed on the outskirts of a pristine community. What she should now expose is the number of these future monuments to stupidity either build or being built in Victoria. The proposed windfarm being build at Rokewood in Victoria will cover some 17,000 hectares and will boast 230 odd wind turbines and destroy 39 productive farms on prime farmland while decimating the value of the housing that it will smother.
      We could point the finger at the dopey Victoria government but in fact this criminal endeavour has federal government approval proving one again that politicians and bureaucrats are not the answer but are, in reality, the problem.

      • Botswana O'Hooligan 05/07/2020, 4:33 pm

        We had a windfarm in the village near where I lived in the 1940’s, a real ripper and it consisted of a car generator on a swivel with a carved wooden prop attached and mounted on a tall pole. Our village gyro gearloose, and every village back then had someone who collected junk for no apparent good reason, a bloke they called “Bertie Brang,” would charge a six volt car battery to run a wireless set for those who didn’t have a motor vehicle to charge a six volt battery.

  • Aktosplatz 06/07/2020, 9:49 am

    Italian Mama

    Mrs. Ravioli comes to visit her son Anthony for dinner.
    He lives with a female roommate, Maria.
    During the course of the meal, his mother couldn’t help but notice how pretty Anthony’s roommate is. Over the course of the evening, while watching the two interact, she started to wonder if there was more between Anthony and his roommate than met the eye.

    Reading his mom’s thoughts, Anthony volunteered, “I know what you must be thinking, but I assure you, Maria and I are just roommates.” About a week later, Maria came to Anthony saying, “Ever since your mother came to dinner, I’ve been unable to find the silver sugar bowl. You don’t suppose she took it, do you?”

    “Well, I doubt it, but I’ll email her, just to be sure.” So he sat down and wrote an email:

    Dear Mama … I’m not saying that you “did” take the sugar bowl from my house; I’m not saying that you “did not” take it.
    But the fact remains that it has been missing ever since you were here for dinner.

    ~ Your Loving Son,Anthony

    Several days later, Anthony received a response email from his MaMa which read:

    Dear son,

    I’m not saying that you “do” sleep with Maria, and I’m not saying that you “do not” sleep with her.
    But the fact remains that if she was sleeping in HER OWN bed, she would have found the sugar bowl by now.

    ~ Your Loving Mama

    Moral:
    Never Bulla Shita you Mama!

  • DT 07/07/2020, 2:56 pm

    As from 2021 all EV registered in NSW must have a blue EV sticker on the front and rear number plates, visiting interstate registered EV must also display the EV stickers.

    LPG equipped vehicles must have red LPG stickers to alert roads and traffic authorities of an above average vehicle danger or hazard level.

    For EV equipped with a battery pack of Lithium ion batteries the potential danger is exothermic reaction, heat, a hard bump against the floor pan containing the batteries, a collision with another vehicle or stationary object, rapid charging on a very hot day all have the potential for an explosion and very hot fire.

    Of course globally EV are still a very small percentage of vehicle fleets and in Australia all sold to date are less than one per cent of the fleet.

    But the experience overseas with explosive fires in EV are enough to cause concern about safety, particularly people trapped inside an EV because the exothermic reaction can be rapid.

    Also, in the near future EV owners will pay a Road Use Tax to collect revenue that Fuel Excise/Tax now provides for roads maintenance.

    I cannot see the point in very expensive by comparison to ICEV when most of our electricity still comes from coal, gas and diesel fuelled generators, more than 80 per cent and more as wind and solar fluctuate from low to about 10 per cent of baseload energy production, the rest from hydro generators.

    When the wind and solar industry supporters quote Installed capacity/Nameplate performance please ignore, that is theoretical engineering design maximum capacity in perfect conditions. The AEMO use Capacity Factor of 30 to 35 per cent of Installed/Nameplate: ie; 100 MW is a real 30MW delivered.

    When politicians say, for example in SA, that 40 per cent of grid is renewable energy ignore, it’s 40 per cent of supply sources are wind and solar etc., so 30 per cent of 40 percent is a real 12 per cent.

    And I am waiting for the time when/if wind/solar achieves a real over 30 per cent because the instability at times taking place already will be far worse.

    Only power stations can provide reliable, 24/7, cheaper electricity.

    • DT 07/07/2020, 4:13 pm

      About the Australian Electricity Grid

      The electricity grid managed by the AEMO covers New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland, South Australia and Tasmania and is the world’s largest interconnected power system.

      The interface between generators (producers of energy) and consumers (industrial users, businesses and homes) is known as the National Electricity Market (NEM). It is the system though which the supply of energy to local distributors is managed, along with the price of that energy.

      Most of Australia’s electricity needs are fulfilled by power stations which burn fossil fuels like coal and natural gas to drive steam turbines.

      A large part is also played by hydroelectric power stations while wind power contributes in line with meteorological conditions.

      There are also many smaller generators which use solar technology, biomass, bagasse etc. to create electricity.

      A relative newcomer is the installation, en masse, of domestic rooftop solar photovoltaics (PV).

      AEMO provides daily files summarising the performance of rooftop solar generation by region.

  • Albert 08/07/2020, 10:24 am

    New Zealand introduces a very sensible ban on foreign purchases of property while Morrison promises Hong Kong Chinese can buy houses if they come to Australia. I wonder if he ever gave a moments thought to the certainty that not all would be genuine refugees and many would be Communist Chinese infiltrators???

    • DT 08/07/2020, 1:09 pm

      British Colony from 1840 to 1997 and the people identify themselves as Hong Kong people.

      How does any country stop entry of people who have political affiliations, religious views or whatever, how to assess them, and consider our Constitution?

      But we do know that HK people are hard working, very well educated, speak English, many have dual citizenship with the UK, Canada, USA, Australia or other country, most applied when the decision to hand HK to China was made.

      HK is one of our top 5 foreign investment sources before China was counted with HK. Like Taiwanese people most HK people oppose the Communists.

      Australians of Chinese ancestry have been here since the early days of colonisation of Australia, and have made valuable contributions.

      • Albert 08/07/2020, 2:14 pm

        DT, did you actually read and understand what I wrote?

      • DT 08/07/2020, 2:28 pm

        Did you read mine Albert?

      • Albert 09/07/2020, 9:16 am

        Yes, I read yours and you missed the point completely.

  • DT 08/07/2020, 2:26 pm

    Be patient please, wait a little while longer and then watch Australia’s transition to “renewables” implode.

    You will remember “Born Lucky” investment in Infigen Energy Australia, previously a failed US energy business, well recently Infigen was sold.

    The number of now stranded worn out wind and solar former assets globally, as the 15-20 years use-by time arrives, are ignored by the local renewable industry lobby.

    This is an interesting article by the author of Apocolypse Never …

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/05/06/the-reason-renewables-cant-power-modern-civilization-is-because-they-were-never-meant-to/#330ab294ea2b

    • DT 08/07/2020, 2:43 pm

      TonyfromOz
      July 7, 2020 at 2:51 pm · Reply
      Oh dear!

      The two States with the largest wind power Nameplate in the Country, Victoria (2774MW) and South Australia, (2142MW) make up 64% of Australia’s current total Nameplate for wind generation. (7728MW)

      The current total power generation (at 2.50PM) for both States combined comes in at 47MW, (and falling) so they are operating at 0.95% Capacity Factor (CF), so less than one in every hundred of those huge wind towers actually has the blades out front turning around. So that’s around 25 out of 2600 of those individual wind towers delivering electricity.

      That’s from 40 Wind Plants ………. 47MW.

      So, across those two States, wind generation is delivering 0.51% of all generated power in those two States, so, umm, barely distinguishable from ZERO.

      Remind me again how much we paid for all these wind plants.

      Across the whole of Australia, the total Nameplate for wind changed to 7728MW at the end of May. The highest it has been since then is 4900MW, and that’s at a CF of 63%, and that was for one five minute reading.

      Tony.

      JoNova

  • DT 08/07/2020, 3:57 pm

    EV is coming to get us, the race is between EV sales and a snail.

    29 May 2020
    Embargoed: 11.30 am (Canberra time)

    Electric vehicle registrations almost double

    Registrations of electric vehicles rose sharply in 2020, however petrol powered vehicles still dominate the fleet, according to newly released Motor Vehicle Census data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS).

    “While electric vehicles are still small in number, less than 0.1 per cent of the fleet, the 14,253 electric vehicles registered in 2020 is almost double the previous year,” said Sarah Kiely, Director of ABS Transport Statistics.

    There were 19.8 million registered vehicles in Australia on the 31st of January 2020, an increase of 1.5 per cent from 2019. Diesel registrations grew again in 2020, with diesel powered vehicles now comprising 25.6 per cent of the national fleet. Petrol powered vehicles in 2020 account for 72.7 per cent of the fleet, down from 73.6 per cent in 2019.

    While the national vehicle fleet grew by 1.5 per cent between 2019 and 2020, this was a slower rate of growth than the previous year. All states and territories reported a slow down in growth in 2020, with the exception of Tasmania (remaining steady at 2.6 per cent) and Western Australia (1.5 per cent growth, up from 0.6 per cent in 2019). The Northern Territory was the only state or territory to record an overall fall in the number of vehicles registered, with a decrease of 0.7 per cent.

    Toyota continued to hold out top spot as the most popular vehicle make registered in Australia, with 3.0 million Toyotas registered in 2020. Registrations of Holdens and Fords continue to decrease, with both falling by 5.8 per cent from 2019. Despite the decline, Holden remains the second most popular make and Ford comes in at fourth. Mazda retains its place as the 3rd most popular make registered in Australia and Hyundai rounds out the top 5.

    The 2020 Motor Vehicle Census details the number of registered motor vehicles in Australia and provides information such as vehicle type, vehicle characteristics including the year of manufacture, and type of fuel used.

    For further information see Motor Vehicle Census, Australia (cat. no. 9309.0), available for free download.

  • John 09/07/2020, 2:55 pm

    Looking back over the news for the last few years a few dot points connect together. Just an interpretation, could be wrong.
    . Over years Andrews/Vic Govt demand Vic Police pursue Pell.
    . Vic Police comply to extent of advertising for complainants.
    . They get him on “curious” evidence. Pell jailed.
    . Curious evidence is crap and Pell released.
    Covid
    . Andrews allows BLM riot, Vic Police do sod all.
    . Increases in cases after two weeks.
    . Andrews asks Vic Police to manage the 9 infected towers.
    . Police Union says sod off to Andrews.
    .Andrews buckles, pays the Union off, gets casuals in to do the same,
    . Massive increases in cases.
    . Andrews blames everyone that draws a breath except him

    Something appears long dead and not buried in Victoria. The stench of corruption and incompetence permeates, or seems to from the entire Govt and Police Force.

    • DT 10/07/2020, 12:46 pm

      * Effectively blocked charges of fraud against a former Victoria based solicitor, later senior Labor MP.

      * Effectively denied an alleged victim of rape at a Labor weekend gathering her day in court.

      * Red shirt State Election scandal magic wand disappearing act.

      * … etc.

  • Albert 10/07/2020, 9:07 am

    Corruption and favours for the boss takes precedence over what is expected by the general public from the NSW Police:

    “Review ‘cleared’ Police Minister without legal advice
    Exclusive An internal review of a NSW Police decision not to charge minister David Elliott for ­allegedly impersonating an officer during a road-rage incident with a P-plater did not wait for its own legal advice before deciding to ‘clear’ him. “

  • Biking Voter 11/07/2020, 12:24 am

    Proof that Australian politicians are all totally stupid and have learnt nothing about the Chinese.
    This story was released on YouTube Indian news channel NewsX on 10/7/20

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbwbzBx2GVw

  • Muphin 11/07/2020, 8:35 am

    MM
    Can you follow up on this alarming ELECTORAL FRAUD story please.

    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6170663914001

  • luk1955 12/07/2020, 8:40 am

    Is Pensioner Pete ok? Haven’t seen a post from him since late June.

    • Pensioner Pete 12/07/2020, 10:12 am

      Hi Luk: Thanks for asking, I am ok, just an ongoing health battle which has quietened me down somewhat lately, but I am returning to form.

      • Botswana O'Hooligan 12/07/2020, 11:49 am

        Thought you had gone drovin n we didn’t know where you are! Bear up mate, she’ll be right.

  • Biking Voter 13/07/2020, 2:40 pm

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews was visiting a primary school in Melbourne and visited a grade four class.

    They were in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings.
    The teacher asked Mr Andrews if he would like to lead the discussion on the word ‘tragedy.’

    So our illustrious Premier asked the class for an example of a ‘tragedy’.

    One little boy stood up and offered: “If my best friend, who lives on a farm, is playing in the field and a tractor runs him over and kills him, that would be a tragedy.”

    “No,” said Andrews, “that would be an accident.”

    A little girl raised her hand: “If a school bus carrying 50 children drove off a cliff, killing everyone, that would be a tragedy.”

    “I’m afraid not,” explained Andrews . “That’s what we would call great loss.”

    The room went silent. No other child volunteered. Andrews searched the room. “Isn’t there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?”

    Finally at the back of the room, Little Johnny raised his hand. The teacher held her breath.

    In a quiet voice he said: “If the plane carrying you was struck by a ‘friendly fire’ missile and blown to smithereens that would be a tragedy.”

    “Fantastic!” exclaimed Andrews , “That’s right. And can you tell me why that would be a tragedy?”

    “Well,” says Little Johnny, “It has to be a tragedy, because it sure as hell wouldn’t be a great loss … and you can bet your sweet ass it wouldn’t be an accident either!”

    The teacher left the room.

  • Pensioner Pete 13/07/2020, 8:29 pm

    Sneaky baskets they all be, some weeks ago, after I was advised Google was installing the Covid19 app during an ‘update’ I disabled it and turned Bluetooth off.

    I found yesterday, the ‘official’ Government Covid19 app appeared on my phone as if by magic. How it got there is a mystery, perhaps part of another update? However, delete went ok. My phone is Android.

    Copy and paste from Channel 9 online news.

    “COVIDSafe app labelled a ‘$2 million failure’
    By Jonathan Kearsley18:14

    The Federal Government’s much-hyped COVIDSafe app has been labelled a “$2 million failure” after not helping contact tracers identify any people who could be exposed to coronavirus.

    “It’s played no role in effectively finding anybody who’s been exposed to COVID-19 … this is a $2 million failure,” Shadow Health Minister Chris Bowen told 9News.

    The Federal Government said the app was working and data was being retrieved by some health departments, however 9News has confirmed no “stranger” contacts have been reached beyond what the contact tracers have been able to do manually.”

    Refers: https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-news-july-13-victoria-lockdown-sydney-outbreak-covid-19/4754b934-d670-4200-af0a-b9a6cd2cfb7c#post=e5d06b9f-2108-4b43-b237-bdde153e0f04

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 14/07/2020, 8:09 am

    Saw that on 9 PP and a check on a fairly new Android that did an update yesterday has that bloody app still “off.” I check it every day as a matter of course anyhow. As with all of the measures taken by all governments it doesn’t work just as many of us predicted (using common sense) that as soon as people were allowed out and about the contagion rate of this virus would rise dramatically. The media bleat about record rises in those catching the virus but conveniently don’t mention that the death rate is one or two and bugger all in the scheme of things, and of course don’t mention a buggered economy but laud the government for ladling out more money to pensioners, seniors, and families.

    • Pensioner Pete 14/07/2020, 8:44 am

      Bots: A lot more small businesses have gone to the wall than people dying from the Chinese Wuhan Virus.

      • Botswana O'Hooligan 14/07/2020, 9:44 am

        All around here in Brissie former small businesses in the shopping malls are shut and the fixtures and fittings gone, heart breaking for all those businesses had several staff who are now on the dole or whatever and are no longer taxpayers, and in reality are not going to be employed again either from age or an economy struggling to recover for years.

  • Albert 14/07/2020, 9:20 am

    Four former Victorian premiers are whinge about Victoria being kicked: “We’ve got to fight this’: Former premiers call for an end to kick-a-Vic mentality”, while that goose Pirate Pete FitzSimmons praises Andrews and his handling of the Covid-19 situation.

  • DT 16/07/2020, 1:02 pm

    Did you hear the story about a girl who kissed a prince and turned him into a green frog?

  • Sir Peter 16/07/2020, 3:45 pm

    Apropos the earlier post “Are You Being Watched?” it is relevant here to recall Williamson’s Law of Surveillance.

    1. The technology usually starts out as a secret.
    2. If it is technically possible, they will use it.
    3. When no longer secret they will promise not to use it.
    4. They will continue to use it.
    5. When caught they will argue it is necessary to protect (i) national security or (ii) the children.
    6. Strict conditions will be made allowing its use in certain cases.They will ignore the restraints.
    7. Someone will develop technology/software to avoid the surveillance but there will be an attempt to make this illegal.
    8. The surveillance technology will continue to be used.
    9. They will stop using it when a new and better technology is developed.
    10. The new technology will be secret. Go to 1. above.

    • Neville 16/07/2020, 7:49 pm

      Neat, Pete.

  • PW 31/07/2020, 6:29 pm

    C’mon guys get your BALAKLAVAS out and start wearing them. Just stitch up the mouth opening.
    These would be great for wearing around Greenacre, South Brisbane, Auburn regions, wink wink

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