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  • Pensioner Pete 22/12/2019, 7:08 pm

    The ScoMo and McCormack singing from the same hymn book it seems. Quote “PM: ‘No argument’ on link between climate change and bushfire crisis”

    Yet, those who have an iota of intellect know full well that decades of failure to adequately manage the bush by way of fire season preparation in reducing fuel loads plus the dozens of arrested arsonists are the cause.


    • Botswana O'Hooligan 23/12/2019, 8:04 am

      Like Nero PP, fiddling whilst the joint burns. Stuff in the Weekend Australia about brumbies in National Parks eating the joints out, all sorts of expensive suggestions except a couple of bushies with a .303 each. We should have thinned the bloody greenies out first up and then the people in the bush could do what they always did, manage the place by backburning small patches at a time and thinning out brumbies.

  • Bwana Neusi 22/12/2019, 8:56 pm

    Time to ditch those halal certified ‘Cadbury’s chocolates. Lindt chocolates are not halal certified.
    Time to ditch Vittorio, and Harris coffee (sad because they are great coffees) but halal certified. Try Italian ‘Lavazza’ before the Pope has it certified halal. Also Italian ‘Aurora’ isn’t a bad brew.

    We need to start stirring up our politicians to implement the Senate recommendations. Where are you Pauline?

    • Neville 23/12/2019, 12:01 am

      Good stuff, that Lindt.
      I switched a couple of years ago, when I discovered Cadburys paid the halal tax. Turned out the price is often good; in (Woolies at least) supermarkets, there’s often – very often – a discount strategy between Lindt and Cadburys, with 1 reduced 1 week, and the other reduced the following week. So the Lindt price is very good when one picks the day to buy.
      But apart from eating halal tax, Cadburys turns out to be real shit, compares the Lindt chocolate! Wonder why we all ate that stuff for YEARS.

      • Cliff 23/12/2019, 7:25 am

        The Cadburys sellout goes beyond just paying the jirz… sorry, halal tax. Check out their current ad. on TV, which borders on subliminal advertising IMHO at least. Poor, possibly homeless white woman out on street, cute little daughter in corner store with not enough money to pay for a block of Dairy Milk for Mum. Kindly shopkeeper takes in whole scenario in an instant and accepts little girl’s trinkets and toys as payment, even gives one back “as change”.

        All very lovely and touchy-feely. And oh, did I mention the obvious ethnicity of the kindly shopkeeper? We are being socially engineered.

      • Botswana O'Hooligan 23/12/2019, 8:44 am

        It is getting harder and harder to buy non halal stuff and they are winning by stealth because many of the products no longer have the halal tag on them and that begs the question of “how do the moslems know the stuff is halal certified, do they have a manual with a list of products that are halal, or are we getting done right royally as I suspect?”

  • DT 23/12/2019, 4:00 pm

    What causes bushfires?

    Fascinating radio interview with a scientist who has vast knowledge and experience with fires.


  • Neville 24/12/2019, 10:51 am

    Hey, BOH, saw your comment in the Australian re culling brumbies. Well said!

    • Botswana O'Hooligan 25/12/2019, 9:45 am

      Yairs Neville, the sometimes publish a comment of mine. Probably the moderator was distracted or on the turps or something. Merry Christmas mate.

      • Neville 25/12/2019, 12:00 pm

        .. and to you, mate!

  • Neville 25/12/2019, 12:04 pm

    Best wishes to everyone here on Morning Mail for a safe and happy Christmas, and and a special Xmas greeting is sent out to those of us who we all appreciated all the time but who no longer are able to comment here.
    Merry Christmas!!

  • Albert 28/12/2019, 10:07 am

    We have fires burning out of control, a key NSW politician nicking off overseas for a holiday in the middle of the fire emergency nicking off overseas for holidays, a PM who is dithering about paying volunteers who have been on the fire ground for weeks and what do we find on the top of the news this morning? Some bloody football “STAR”(?????) splits from his wife. Who gives a big rats?????

    • Botswana O'Hooligan 29/12/2019, 1:40 pm

      Albert, I have contact with a bloke called Peter Watt who writes some damn good novels and is a volunteer fire fighter as well. Peter is trying to get a fund going for the families of volunteers who get killed or maimed when performing their volunteer roles. Pete opines that many of the volunteers are pensioners anyhow and were they to be paid their pensions would suffer, not so much the loot but the side benefits, and also were they paid they could be liable to legal action if they took/didn’t take what some smart bastard of a solicitor calculated they should have taken. You know, it’s always the older folk who make up the bulk of volunteers and I will never ever forget the small services members of the CWA and other older folk performed when I spent a lot of time on search and rescue, people who should have been home in bed or hiding under it, making breakfasts, sandwiches, soups, tea and coffee, doddering around trying to help. Then the SES volunteers, many of them old people too, all trusting blokes like me to haul them around in bloody atrocious weather. I was old too, in my seventies at the last, but someone paid me for it was my job for over fifty years and I wasn’t an amateur, those poor bastards were and are, and they are the bloody heroes in my book for they know the consequences, they also know fear, and yet they do it. Very “real” Australians.

      • Aktosplatz 30/12/2019, 8:36 am

        You’re right, Bots, Peter Watt is a damn good author of Australian Historical Fiction. I have all of his books in his Frontier Series, and strongly recommend them They are probably in the Library.

      • Albert 30/12/2019, 9:37 am

        Bots, as a former Divisional Commander and then senior regional OC with what was the Royal Volunteer Coastal Patrol in NSW I am fully aware of the volunteer ethos. However, I would opine that pensioner volunteers can refuse payment should it have a detrimental effect on their pensions. I do not for one minute go along with Mr Watt’s opinion that they would be forced to accept payment.
        What my comment was aimed at is the fact that an obsession with sport leads to sporting figures being hailed as some sort of heroes that demand, according to the MSM, front page headlines for whatever they do while the real heroes such as the fire fighters are individually all but ignored and the country falls apart around us.

  • Albert 30/12/2019, 9:38 am
  • Botswana O'Hooligan 30/12/2019, 4:15 pm

    I liken some of this stuff to someone asking you to do something for them and then tell you how to do it. Once the desk warriors get their hands on stuff connected with disasters they either pull rank or become an extra nuisance to be dealt with, and in the wash up after they have made the same mistakes they made the last time, and the time before that, and the time before all that going way back, they come out with something along the lines of –we learned a great deal from this (insert your disaster of choice) and rest assured, it won’t happen again– but it always does and the link Albert posted indicating the drop in fire fighters numbers proves there is something radically wrong illustrates that. You can probably lay odds on that they won’t fix it this time around either for they never do, and they might even make things worse.

  • TommyGun 30/12/2019, 9:46 pm

    I just found this video:


    It’s Paul J. Watson again. It’s about the recent victory by the Tories in the UK. “Leftist losers react to UK election.”
    I near peed myself laughing while watching it.
    Let’s just say that it pointed out some of the hypocrisy of the Left.
    I recommend it!

    • Aktosplatz 31/12/2019, 12:45 pm

      Thanks TG, it was very funny as usual, for PJW

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 31/12/2019, 1:07 pm

    The government is bankrolling first home buyers on some kind of 5% deposit scheme if a couple earns less than $200000 and a single less than $125000. People earning that amount of money who cannot afford to save enough to get a home loan need counselling on how to manage their monetary affairs, not given a loan. Somewhere down the track in this socialist State the cry will go up, we can’t afford a car or a boat or some other thing, so the taxpayer will have to stump up again.

  • PeterW 31/12/2019, 3:43 pm

    12 months ago there was a Royal Commision into an Aboriginal spitting brat being rightly held in a NT detention centre.
    Its high time there is a Royal Commission into these bush fires.
    How many councils agreed to Greens pathetic ideologies and were these agreed upon by sitting parties of either left or right with aim of saving finances.
    Screw the brat kid.
    The enormity of these fires have and will still continue with lost lives, homes, businesses and everyones insurance going sky high.
    Time to hold all those responsible. Check every minutes of meetings and name those bastards.
    Time to bring back the stocks!
    Time for accountability!
    Screw climate change its a pack of a-holes responsible.

    • TommyGun 31/12/2019, 4:44 pm

      A few years back a mate of mine had a house near Stirling in the Adelaide Hills…a known fire hot-spot. He wanted to cut back some large gums too near to his house so did the right thing and applied to the touchy-feely Council.
      Council promptly rejected his application.
      So he told them loudly and clearly that, in the event of a fire damaging his house they would be sued both individually and collectively, until they were left standing in their underwear.
      I understand a little later the aforementioned trees were removed with no fuss or bother…

    • Aktosplatz 31/12/2019, 7:39 pm

      I fully agree PeterW. Those who have banned bush clearing and back burning should be made accountable.

      All of those who have suffered losses should start a class action against those councils that prohibited clearing and back burning.

      And more importantly what will be done in the future to stop this happening again? If these same councils demand action on climate change then they should demand exactly what they want done and outline the expected features and benefits, and it should be made a legal contract.

      • Peter W 31/12/2019, 8:33 pm

        Trouble is “Class Action” lawyers are mostly Greens hyenas.
        But I agree, needs to be a “change.org” set up for this action to be given the go ahead. Shake the bastards to the ground.
        As TG also stated, its best to inform those “individuals” that there will face a law suit. They might then stop and think twice when voting to obstruct genuine public requests for safety.

  • DT 01/01/2020, 9:25 am

    The Real Reason That Australia Is Burning.

    Please pass this on;


  • TommyGun 02/01/2020, 7:19 am

    I understand our mate Jack Richards lives near Corryong, which has been in one of the fire zones. Jack; if you read this can you let us know you came through OK?

  • Albert 02/01/2020, 8:51 am

    A report into the devastating Victorian fires of 1939 said that those fires “were lit by the hand of man”.
    A good hard look at the pattern and locations of fires presently ravishing the country suggests to me that the same is happening today
    A terrorism linked activist made a threat along the lines that he and his mob would burn Australia to the ground. The Green lunatics have provided the perfect conditions for this to be considered a distinct possibility and so easily achieved.

  • Aktosplatz 02/01/2020, 12:27 pm

    Having learned (and re-learned) much about bush-fires ( a current article +video in ‘Quadrant’) it is appalling as to how Councils and State authorities have barred entrance to parks and thick bush areas to those those who wanted to clear and back burn. Barriers and padlocked gates could well be a criminal act.

    For those who work in the Rural Areas, their safety has been endangered, and already there has been tragic loss of life.

    I really believe there is a strong case under the Workplace Health and Safety Act to prosecute these bastards.

    Making a Workplace deliberately UNSAFE is where it starts. And to blame it on Climate Change are callous lies.

    Workplace Health and Safety Inspectors have prosecuted for far less than this.

    • TommyGun 02/01/2020, 9:37 pm

      Yes, Akto, the ferocity of these fires is due to one thing only: bigger fuel load than normal.
      That is due to years and years of closure of National Parks and reserves and feverish anti-burnoff mindset. Now, when the spark has finally come, the resulting fires are so fierce they cannot be contained; let alone extinguished.
      Those responsible for refusing to reduce fuel loads should be prosecuted for the damage and loss of life and property. If the laws don’t exist, they need to be legislated.

  • JG 03/01/2020, 8:39 am

    Politics being played by all parties while Australia burns makes sick.
    This is not about votes or who is PM or in opposition.
    Why the hell can not some people put their petty politics away and pull as one with those loosing, suffering, fighting.

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 03/01/2020, 8:49 am

    A mate visiting his kids and grandkids in Batemans Bay sent me the following. I couldn’t post the accompanying photo of an empty bay due poor computing skills.

    Have a look at the above picture of Bateman’s Bay, NSW. I took this panoramic photo at about 7pm today – Thursday, 02 January 2020.

    If you focus carefully in your mind’s eye you will be able to see a squadron of the Royal Australian Navy support fleet, floating at anchor in Bateman’s Bay – consisting of a number of destroyers, logistics support vessels, and a hospital ship, all equipped with retrieval aircraft such as helicopters, and staffed with their expert medical evacuation teams, etc. This flotilla has been positioned out there in the bay as a contingency to provide back-up to the evacuation of the Batemans Bay coastal area – as ordered by the NSW Government – ahead of a forecast bad bushfire day on Saturday. The Navy’s job here is to give particular priority to the extraction of the elderly from their nursing homes and the immobile from their residences, and those who do not have their own transport – who obviously cannot be part of the evacuation exodus that is current streaming north. The evacuation of the south coast is a consequence of the NSW Government’s declaration of a ‘State of Emergency’, following the NSW Premier’s fly-in-fly-out photo opportunity visit to Batemans Bay today. It is being cited as the biggest emergency movement of people in Australia’s history.


    WELL – that’s probably because THERE AREN’T ANY – and there are none on the way either!

    There are a number of reasons for this – so let’s start with the easy one first:

    No. 1: – The Ghost Fleet

    The public has remained blissfully unaware for some years that THE RAN IS UNABLE TO CREW ITS MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR FLEET. It has ships tied up to the wharves that it cannot crew – ships that have cost 100s of millions to re-fit and modernise. Why is that? Well – a big part of the problem is that when recruiting sailors, it has been commanded to enforce the principles of “gender equality”. That means it has to recruit a helluva lot of female sailors to create this “equality” – but the trouble is that in order to apply this fashionable principle of political correctness, the navy recruiters have been turning away the young men who have both the aptitude, and the passion, to seek a naval career – that is, they have been turning away the social class that has been the natural recruitment catchment of navies around the world since time immemorial. The result is that the RAN is something of a phantom organisation – a ghost fleet, if you like – that cannot carry out its mission to the nation, even if the politicians and bureaucrats in charge thought that this might be a good idea in the case of the humanitarian fiasco that is now under way on the south coast of NSW.

    No.2: – The Meticulous Planning

    It seems not to have occurred to the managing bureaucrats and politicians running the emergency services sector of the NSW Govt that the logistics of suddenly ordering a huge population catchment to get up and go (somewhere else), may not be a good idea, if you haven’t already thoroughly planned such a move beforehand. The main highway to the west of Bateman’s Bay (the Kings Highway to Canberra) has been closed for days, and a significant part of the Princes Highway to the south has also been closed. The only other main surface exit is the Princes Highway to the north, portions of which have been closed on and off due to fire risk for some weeks. The reality is that the only exit point is northbound on the Princes Highway (which is open at the moment), and due to the incompetent planning by the NSW Govt (with its weeping Transport minister), huge numbers of panicked residents and holiday makers are now lined up bumper-to-bumper virtually stationary, filling this road from Batemans Bay to Nowra – a distance of over 100 km. Vehicles with increasingly agitated people have been stationary at Ulladulla for up to 6 hours (44 km north of Bateman’s), some with older people who have been panicked by frantic and exaggerated media announcements into belatedly trying to escape from what they have been led to believe is a coming Armageddon in two days’ time. The reality is that although the weather extremes predicted for Saturday will certainly not be comfortable, it would have been better for many of these people to simply sit it out, as most of the flammable fire risk near dense habitation has already been burnt out. An elderly female neighbour in poor health who lives just up the road from where I am writing this (just north of Batemans Bay), set off in her car today with her four pet animals because the NSW Premier had advised relatives of south coast residents to urge them to leave. This unfortunate woman has now been stuck in her car near Ulladulla in jammed traffic conditions for over six hours with her pets, mainly because her relatives urged her to leave ON THE BASIS OF FRANTIC MEDIA REPORTING – when all along she would have been better staying with her house and the assistance of her local community. I suspect that there are many thousands of people in that vehicle queue like this who are now cursing those that pushed them into what could become a dangerous situation. Police are now advising escapees that it would be faster to travel south to Bega and go inland from there to try and join the Hume Highway – an additional distance of at least 400 kms, rather than attempt to drive north on a badly jammed road.

    No.3: – The Media’s Pseudo-Firemen

    The reporting about the fire threat on the electronic media (mainly the TV) has been TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE. It has stoked fear and dismay which has led to irrational behaviour by people who are not used to planning or making operational decisions for themselves. Thus the panic exit by road to the north – a road system that was known to be totally incapable of handling such a massive flow of vehicles. Last Tuesday I watched a TV reporter, all kitted-out in pseudo-fireman’s gear, screaming his frantic narrative of fear excitedly at the camera as if he was some sort of “expert” – carefully positioned in front of a backdrop of smoke and vehicles manoeuvring in a car park, against the red glow of the setting sun – just to make it look extra scary. This sort of hype from self-appointed media “experts” may be deemed to be “good media coverage” the exploitative media industry, but it has created an atmosphere of fear and panic in a situation where that should never ever be allowed to take hold.

    I have only scratched the surface here – I could go on – but I am sure you get the drift. As for the people responsible for this mess – the politically-correct politicians-without-spines who have emasculated our armed forces, the over-paid bureaucrats and State politicians who have made a bad situation much worse, the group of so-called “retired fire commissioners” who allowed the forest fuel load to build-up decade-after-decade, but said nothing about it – apart from their highly politicised attempt to blame Scott Morrison for the bush fires by asserting that he wasn’t doing enough “to flight climate change” – and finally, the parasites of the media who specialise in reporting fake news or just plain crap that keeps most of the population ignorant about how poorly we are governed and how vulnerable Australia has become as a nation in just about every national performance indicator.

    In the 1960s, the one-time editor of the Bulletin magazine, Donald Horne, made his famous statement that “Australia is a lucky country run by second rate people”. I think that Donald Horne was wrong. The people who run Australia now are no more than ‘third rate’.

  • Peter W 03/01/2020, 7:17 pm

    Geez I feel so so sorry for those who lost their homes and the families of those who lost their lives.

    BUT guys its NOT the PM’s responsibility, it’s your Premier you need to yell that you’ve been forgotten.

    And I hope to God you did NOT vote Greens.

    • TommyGun 03/01/2020, 10:20 pm

      I saw those angry people abusing the PM today on TV.
      They may well be rusted-on Labor voters.
      What annoys me is that they have no respect; by insulting the PM they insult everyone who voted for Lib/Nats (and I did NOT vote Lib/Nats).
      The guy is doing what he can, (which is mostly coordinating)…what do they expect him to do…wave a magic wand and put the fires out?
      They are the same type of people who criticised Tony Abbott for his fire-fighting volunteering.
      They wouldn’t stand in the street and abuse Putin like that…they’d soon learn some respect.

      • Peter W 04/01/2020, 8:07 am

        I wish someone would remove that “opinionater” Gretel Killeen from our TV screens.

        Bucketing the PM ranting he is not a leader. Then goes on to shake her empty head when reducing the fuel load would have helped enormously. What a first class fool this idiot is.

  • Neville 03/01/2020, 11:26 pm

    Was just reading Delingpole, here: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/02/greens-made-australia-bush-fires-worse/
    This remark jumped out at me: “ABC — the excruciatingly left-wing Australian Broadcasting Company, so woke it makes the BBC and CNN look like Fox News — reported on the protests with some enthusiasm last September but has since mysteriously decided to delete the story from Facebook.”
    First thought on reading this was how this action of the EhBC is so similar to one of the functions of the Ministry of Truth in Nineteen Eighty-Four; it had the job to go through all historical events and change and amend them to match the current “reality” required by Big Brother. Further thought brought to mind that this is definitely NOT the first time the LeftyBC has done this stuff, namely, deleting and removing something it reported in the past, so that it “couldn’t be found [therefore we never said it!].
    So .. behold .. TheirBC .. the new and improved Aussie version of the Ministry of Truth!
    (and BTW, just in Queensland alone, some 100-odd people have felt the arm of the law re starting these fires – how many more in NSW and VIC?? But do we see ANY mention of this in the MSM?? And Channel 9 appears to me to have become just another publicity arm for the lefty-greeny-labor blob.)

  • Cliff 04/01/2020, 6:33 am

    Small addition to some of the comments above: many have commented on the smaller than in the past ADF involvement in this crisis.

    The uncomfortable fact is, (apart from the smaller (wo)manning capabilities of today’s ADF), there is the unavoidable issue that much of the modern capital equipment they have today isn’t fit for purpose in the civil assistance role.

    40 years ago, the RAAF sported the (to many, venerable) UH-1 ‘Huey’ helicopter and the Army the smaller Kiowa helicopter, both excellent platforms in both their then primary roles and in the secondary role of civil disaster relief. The Caribou could also operate into damn near any airfield or country road (or if necessary, paddock).

    Much if not most of what’s replaced those assets is too big, too specialised and hugely expensive to operate. For instance, the Navy has a gaggle of Seahawk helicopters at Nowra, but most of them cannot be used to assist in the fires because the model we bought, the ‘R’, is fitted with anti-submarine gear that is a permanent fitting – it cannot be removed to allow the airframe to be used for other purposes. As opposed to the S’ model, which we could have bought with (some would say) a minimal reduction in its primary capability, which would have allowed removal of the same equipment to give the airframe a secondary role.

    Much the same could be said of some of the airframes now in use with the Army, if to a lesser degree. (More so, the huge operating costs allied with them being too big to be of use in many situations.)

    The new C27s the RAAF now have go some way towards replacing the Caribou, but they too cannot operate with anywhere near the flexibility of what they replaced.

    Sadly, the comments about the social engineering posing as recruitment policy in the ADF over the last decade or more are distressingly accurate.

    • Albert 04/01/2020, 8:00 am

      Well said, Cliff. As an ex-RAAFie I couldn’t agree more.

  • Albert 04/01/2020, 8:17 am

    You would think that under the circumstances the NSW Premier, Gladys Alphabet, and Andrew Constance would keep their big mouths shut instead of having a very public shot at Morrison via a very compliant MSM.
    I suspect also that most would be very happy to see the arse end of that silly little ex fire commissioner, Mullins. Mullins, who did nothing to clean up the fire load while he sat in the seat for years now wants to blame climate change and Morrison for the current catastrophe.


    • DT 05/01/2020, 9:30 am

      Shane Mullins is out of his depth.

  • DT 04/01/2020, 9:11 am
    • Neville 04/01/2020, 12:57 pm

      Just read that, DT, a few minutes ago. Interesting. Suspect he’s right, though I’m not sure how long it’ll take.

  • TommyGun 04/01/2020, 2:28 pm

    How’s this for a Green/Wanker headline:


    The headline is: “NSW and Victoria bushfires fuelled by soaring temperatures and strong winds..”

    Er, well, NO. Wanker. You got it wrong. Bushfires are fuelled by, well; FUEL!
    Fuel that has been allowed to accumulate since, well, since the last time it was burned. But, hey! Let’s not let the FACTS get in the way of another sensationalist Green headline.

    BTW; the journalist is a Liam Butterworth. And, if you look up his other articles I think you’ll agree he’s a Democrat-lover. So he works for the GAYBC.

    • TommyGun 04/01/2020, 5:27 pm

      Well, bugger me!
      I sent the guy a scathing email about the headline.
      When I checked about an hour later; it had been changed!! LOL
      Maybe calling someone a woke bastard helps sometimes!

      • PeterW 06/01/2020, 8:31 am

        Good on you TG.
        We need to do more corrections for these liars.

  • DT 04/01/2020, 3:24 pm
    • TommyGun 04/01/2020, 5:28 pm

      Jeez; that woman will be burned at the stake!
      Saint Greta will be calling for her head!

  • DT 05/01/2020, 9:29 am


    A short video presentation of history


  • Albert 05/01/2020, 3:51 pm
  • Albert 06/01/2020, 7:35 am

    The members of this short sighted ‘Scientific Committee’ should be jailed:


  • Peter W 06/01/2020, 11:06 am

    ……………………………….Been scrolling through the pages.

    I hope you are safe Jack Richards from Corryong!

    We have not heard from you.

  • Albert 06/01/2020, 2:07 pm
  • Fred 06/01/2020, 5:13 pm

    Met up with a bloke today that made the comment that if the Coalition wasn’t in government we would not have the Fires and it would rain and we would have lower temperatures in the outback. Had to keep a strait face when I spoke to him but had a good laugh when he walked away.

    • Pensioner Pete 06/01/2020, 6:17 pm

      Fred: I wonder what the bloke has to say about Queensland, given Labor is in government and out here in the outback, we enter our eighth year of drought with long range forecasts claiming drought likely to last another two years because of very low sunspot activity and major planetary alignments, using the same methodology as Inigo Jones of long range weather forecasting fame.

      Queensland also have bad bush fires happening and the summer heat is as always out here, hot. Seems Labor are not capable of controlling the weather despite being regarded by the loony left, as the Messiahs of modern times.

    • DT 07/01/2020, 7:28 am

      Sky News Inside The News last night with Chris Smith, he interviewed a Doctor Price and asked him what impact climate change had on the bushfires.

      Price hesitated and indicated it was a difficult question to answer but said according to informed sources there has been a 1 deg C warming over past decades. Smith asked what impact does that have on the bushfire situation and the reply was maybe a 20% factor.

      Well that’s a long way from climate emergency and other hysterical claims.

      What was not discussed was UN Agenda 30 and lack of land management resulting and the fuel load coupled to a long very dry drought and the Bushfire Season.

      And no mention of the BoM data not matching other historic records data, BoM playing around with weather station locations (near or within heat sinks) and creating a false long term temperature trend upwards by fiddling with automatic weather station readings (eg; 29.3 becomes 29.6).

      I have seen graphs that indicate long term very little fluctuation in average temperature year by year and long term average. But UN IPCC, BoM and other climate change hoax players claim every upwards temperature trend.

      Natural climate change is Earth Cycles, unnatural climate change claims are all about socialism globalism politics.

      The politicians who go along with the hoax are traitors.

      • Albert 07/01/2020, 9:03 am

        I agree with you 100%, DT. I too watched that interview and at its end I was unable to give any credibility to Price. His reply that climate change contributed to the fire situation by MAYBE 20% was enough to tell me that another “expert” was guessing.
        In this mornings news is a piece about an interview MP Craig Kelly gave in the UK where he was savaged by that contemptible low-life Piers Morgan who viciously attacked Kelly because he would not submit to the ‘fires caused by man-made climate change’ hoax.

      • DT 07/01/2020, 11:27 am

        Albert I was reminded that UN Agenda 30 implementation began early 1990s, in NSW for example the Carr Labor Government converted State Forests and even dam catchment areas into National Parks, and including areas set aside for new dams by the Coalition from 1965 to 1976.

        Carr does not have a driving licence but enjoys bushwalking and camping so he commandeered government helicopters to fly himself and mates to remote bushland areas on weekends.

        I agree with you, the politicians who go along with the hoax are traitors.

  • DT 07/01/2020, 7:38 am
  • DT 07/01/2020, 7:41 am
  • Albert 07/01/2020, 9:07 am

    Surprise, surprise. This mornings news reveals that another gaggle of university “experts” claim that burn-offs and back burning will only make the problem worse. It seems that these boofheads don’t see anything wrong with the huge fuel loads that were front and centre of the latest fire storms.

    • DT 07/01/2020, 11:31 am

      A radio caller on local radio recommended that with the new start the wildfires have created reduce the areas of National Parks and recreate State Forests, cut fire breaks and fire trails for land management and bushfire fighting and containing.

      I say dump UN Agenda 30 – Sustainability, green forests now black forests, wildlife dead.

      Agenda 30 is impacting on many things including the economy and future economic prosperity.

  • DT 08/01/2020, 7:38 am

    Maybe the result of this bushfire season has had an impact on many of our politicians?

    My son arrived home yesterday to NSW Mid North Coast from his Sydney work places for a short break and commented on how many private contractors and council earthmoving machinery and tree handling machinery he sighted working on cutting fire breaks, removing trees and undergrowth from the sides of roads, a massive clean up operation.

    He said there are now views that were previously hidden for as long as he can remember as trees left standing are more widely spaced and the undergrowth that was earlier burnt by bushfires removed.

    As a qualified builder and also qualified for hardscape landscaping he noted the heavy machinery and trucks and estimated that the cost would be millions of dollars for private contractors involved in the clean up.

    And now the CFMMEU Victoria are calling for forests to managed again including sustainable logging carried out, fire trails opened and fire breaks created.

    Could it be that Agenda 30 and other extreme green madness will be countered, forced changes by deaths and destruction common sense will at last prevail?

    Will the Australian bushfire season of 2019-2020 be a turning point against UN IPCC climate change emergency hoax as the people discover facts?

    • Aktosplatz 08/01/2020, 8:11 am

      I hope so DT – thanks for that welcome news.

  • Albert 08/01/2020, 8:16 am

    I have seen so much of the coverage of the fires on teevs that I can’t recall where every silly comment was aired. However, there was a claim made yesterday that the IPCC was a leading and authoritative climate science organisation. Yeah, right.

    • DT 09/01/2020, 9:38 am

      Refer them to Christopher Monckton, UK mathematician, who published a peer reviewed paper exposing the IPCC climate modelling as a fraud, IPCC data does not match historic data records.

      Monckton audited the IPCC data because it didn’t look right.

      The IPCC thereafter have not allowed him to address IPCC meetings and conferences, their excuse being that “the science is settled”.

      Our BoM are also creative accountants of data.

      Climate change is natural, Earth Cycles.

  • Albert 08/01/2020, 8:44 am

    Several times recently I have mentioned the possibility of devastating fires being the work of terrorist cells without response. Maybe a quick read of the following on the Michael Smith News site is worthwhile:
    US Marine Corps paper – Pyro-Terrorism, the threat of massive arson-induced fires as a terrorist weapon.

  • Peter W 08/01/2020, 6:59 pm

    I just received an invitation to sign on the Change.org site for a Royal Commission into these fires.
    So many of the comments are on the “climate change ‘deniers’ in government”.
    Seriously what about the 183 arsonists that we now know of?
    Do these effwits believe that every thief, every rapist, every felon is ever caught? 183!! How many other have they missed? It could be in the hundreds that have been lighting fires. Not a word about clearing the undergrowth every year let alone the decades that have been ignored.

    • Albert 09/01/2020, 8:09 am

      Peter, the Greens and their seriously disturbed followers don’t want to know anything about the excessive fuel loads that caused such devastation because it rips the wheels off their climate change arguments.
      Over the last couple of days we have seen a retired CFA chief in Victoria predicting that the scene of the Black Saturday fires is set to erupt once again because nothing has been done to clean up the combustible fuel loads that have built up since those terrible fires.
      What is wrong with those responsible that prevents them from learning?

      • Biking Voter 09/01/2020, 10:52 am

        A reply from one person on the ground the fighting the fires, granted he is only one person but in my opinion better qualified than most to be able to comment on the current situation.


      • luk1955 10/01/2020, 7:58 am

        The greens are funded by the people who want to remove the middle class people from life and make them all poor slaves to the economic gods. The greens have also wanted the farmers off the land, and we import all our food. The greens have halted back burning, and have wanted the fuel to build up. Then they send out their people to start fires. So easy to do. The moozies would have an interest in these fires, as it is one method of conquest to them. Since no names of arsonists have been posted, we can assume they are either greens or moozies. And the green policies have just killed close to 1 billion creatures, not counting insects, bats, and frogs. If anyone votes green after this, those people need to be locked up. The amount of water needed to fight these fires adds to the length of the drought.
        And when 29 fire chiefs agree on a single cause, namely that of the ever sickening phrase “climate change”, something is wrong because 29 of anybody will not agree on a single cause in any field. I would say those fire chiefs have been threatened by our governments to say that or lose their jobs.

    • DT 09/01/2020, 9:34 am

      And now the GetUp Independent skier is seeking publicity calling for a Royal Commission into climate change emergency.

      • Aktosplatz 09/01/2020, 12:52 pm

        Giving evidence and scientific opinion under oath is exactly what we need. Because then you find the likes of Ian Plimer, Jennifer Marohasy, and Christopher Monckton turning up in droves.

        But that won’t happen for that very reason – who wants to listen to real science?

    • DT 09/01/2020, 9:41 am

      The CFMMEU Victoria has gone public on the real causes of the wildfires, and lack of land management is the main one, as we all know.

      They are calling on VicGov to revert to forest sustained logging, maintaining fire trails and fire breaks etc.

      And of cause arsonists take advantage of the fuel on the ground in bushfire season.

      • luk1955 10/01/2020, 7:49 am

        And I wager that most of the arsonists are greens or moozies.

  • DT 09/01/2020, 9:32 am

    Lost the Horses, lost the Cows, lost the Sheep.

    And the Scapegoat has suffered too.


    Cartoon, The Australian.

  • PeterW 09/01/2020, 10:17 am

    We all knew that their hypocrisy would land these two fools new titles; Mr and Mrs Windsor!

    • DT 09/01/2020, 11:19 am

      The Woke people, are they the future?

    • Aktosplatz 09/01/2020, 12:56 pm

      I presume you are referring to Ginge and Cringe (aka Preach & Leech).

      So what this means is that this married couple who are always pretending to be actually working, will be stepping back from pretending to be actually working.

      The British Taxpayer have to get rid of them, for the sake of the survival of the RF (I personally couldn’t care). They’re all a waste of space, except for the Queen.

      • TommyGun 09/01/2020, 3:00 pm

        Give me break, you guys! Akto; that is pure gold: “Ginge and Cringe (aka Preach & Leech)”.

        I was going to add a comment but mine pales into insignificant beside such quality.
        My comment was simply that I didn’t know that there were any jobs for useless PC Woke bastards and washed-up actresses. But I guess there must be.

      • Botswana O'Hooligan 09/01/2020, 3:38 pm

        They will become “remittance men” without the remittance or maybe a small million or two here and there to keep their mouths shut, and then the oblivion of Umbagumba and a grass palace where she will take him to the cleaners in a short time and resume the life of a flibbertigibbet.

      • Aktosplatz 09/01/2020, 7:50 pm

        I have a theory about Ms Me-Again Markle and I have had it from Day One when we first heard about her, and it is this:-

        ‘She despises white males’.

        What that means practically is that she will use them and then ‘ghost’ them. Dump them.
        Starting with her Dad apply that theory and it fits all the way with all of the white males in her life.

        Oh and BTW she is always very touchy-feely with them all before she cuts and runs once they no longer serve a purpose.

        Ginge is the Mug who keeps on giving at the moment, but at the right time she’ll ghost him too. In the meantime (publicly) she can’t keep her hands off him.

      • TommyGun 09/01/2020, 7:51 pm

        It’s a pity Ginger hasn’t got the class of his mother.
        If the poor woman hadn’t had her life completely stuffed by marrying Charles (aka HRH “Loony”) she might still be alive.
        IMO she had more class than the rest of them rolled together.
        Thank God the eldest boy seems to have inherited it.
        But not Ginger.

      • Peter W 10/01/2020, 9:31 am

        ha ha brilliant Akto!!

  • DT 09/01/2020, 4:41 pm

    For your information, the Snowy Mountains high country cattle grazing areas and the cattle families huts;


  • Biking Voter 09/01/2020, 7:03 pm

    Who knew that governments lie and obfuscate ……..


    • JG 11/01/2020, 7:50 am

      Guardian a Left Green rag not worth hanging on the back of the dunny door.

  • DT 10/01/2020, 9:59 am

    The Statement
    “The 2019/20 budget cut of $12.9 million to recurrent expenditure on top of $21 million of savings to be found for the government’s Labour Expense Cap is crippling FRNSW.”
    Leighton Drury, Fire Brigade Employees’ Union State Secretary. November 12, 2019.
    The Analysis
    As New South Wales faces catastrophic bushfire conditions, the Fire Brigade Employees’ Union (FBEU) has claimed funding to Fire and Rescue NSW was cut in the last NSW budget.
    Fire and Rescue NSW (FRNSW) provides fire, rescue and hazmat services across NSW and its professional firefighter members are represented by the FBEU. [1] [2]
    The FBEU says their members are struggling under budget pressures while “fighting on the frontlines as New South Wales burns” alongside their volunteer counterpart, the Rural Fire Service (RFS). [3] [4]
    NSW State Secretary for the FBEU, Leighton Drury, told AAP, in a story carried in the Northern Daily Leader and numerous other outlets, the state government had “cut $12.9 million to recurrent expenditure” in its last budget. [5]
    AAP FactCheck examined Mr Drury’s claim that FRNSW’s funding was cut by $12.9 million in the 2019-20 budget.
    When the claim was put to NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian on the ABC’s RN Breakfast radio program on November 12, she rejected the FBEU claim as “completely incorrect and wrong”. [6]
    The premier said the government had “provided record number (sic) of both capital and recurrent funding” to “all our frontline agencies and emergency services”. [6]
    Mr Drury referred AAP FactCheck to the 2019-20 NSW Budget Estimates paper. Budget papers show funding for agencies in two parts: recurrent expenses for items such as wages, and capital expenditure for items such as buildings and equipment. [7] [8]
    The 2019/20 budget shows FRNSW received $774.3 million for expenses and $51.9 million for capital expenditure. It also shows revised 2018/19 expenses funding – the result of the mid-year review regularly done halfway through each budget period – was $787.2 million, while revised 2018/19 capital expenditure was $80.4 million. This means that FRNSW’s 2019/20 recurrent expenses budget is indeed $12.9 million lower than what it received in 2018/18 as a result of increased funds at mid-year. [7]
    However, in the original 2018/19 budget, handed down in June 2018, FRNSW funding for expenses was $729 million. An extra $58.2 million was allocated at the mid-year review. Based on the original 2018/19 budget, FRNSW was allocated $45.3 million more in funding in the 2019/20 budget. [7] [8]
    The extra $58.2 million allocated at mid-year follows the state government passing a law in 2018 to make it easier for firefighters to claim compensation for cancers caused by their work. While money was allocated for retrospective claims, AAP FactCheck was unable to clarify whether the entire additional allocation was to fund compensation claims.[9] [10]
    A NSW government spokesperson told AAP FactCheck that FRNSW “will be receiving a record $826 million in 2019-20, an increase of 2.7 per cent from funding announced in the 2018-19 budget”.
    The $826 million comes from adding $774.3 million allocated to the FRNSW’s recurrent expenses and $51.9 million for capital expenditure. [7]
    The different positions of the FBEU, which claims there has been a cut to FRNSW’s budget, and the NSW government, which claims the budget has risen to a record level, depend on whether the 2019/20 budget is compared to the original 2018/19 accounts, or the revised version done mid-year.
    AAP FactCheck contacted several economists to seek opinion on whether the funding amounted to a cut.
    AMP chief economist, Shane Oliver told AAP FactCheck it is customary to use “whatever is close as possible to whatever is spent and then whatever is planned for the current financial year”.
    “For last year, 2018-19 you have really got to take what was actually spent which is the revised number. You’ve got to compare what they’re budgeting this year compared to what they actually spent last year,” Dr Oliver said.
    Dr Oliver’s position supports that of the FBEU, however the AMP economist also said the costs for cancer compensation would have to be excluded from calculations if they were a one-off.
    “It would be wrong to have a look at the 2019-20 budget and say it’s down on the finalised or revised number for 2018-19 because that 2018-19 number was what turns out to be exaggerated by that one off payment,” he said.
    Frank Stilwell, a professor emeritus in political economy at the University of Sydney, told AAP FactCheck via email that a spending cut “is the amount by which the funding allocated for the year ahead has been reduced below the actual expenditure in the preceding year”.
    “That is what would normally be understood as a ‘cut’,” Prof Stilwell said.
    Prof Stilwell said whether the budget for any one year was affected by a particular variable, such as workers’ compensation payments, “may indeed affect the outcome”.
    “Next year could be affected by other cost blow-outs too, which could adversely affect employment and services if the spending allocation is strictly adhered to,” he said.
    Dr Phillip Toner, Senior Research Fellow in the Department of Political Economy at the University of Sydney told AAP FactCheck in an email that the opposing claims “may be a classic case of ‘damned lies and statistics’ in that both sides may be using published data that suits their particular causes”.
    “It may be difficult to say whose view is ‘correct’ or whose interpretation should be given more weight,” he said.
    Separate to the debate about the different budget figures, the FBEU has also argued that the NSW Government’s Labour Expense Cap – a 2.5 per cent annual limit on employment costs imposed on many agencies in 2013 – is also an effective cut to its budget as any costs above the cap must be met from within the existing budget. [11]
    Mr Drury argues that the Labor Expense Cap requires $21 million in savings to be found and claims it is “crippling FRNSW”.
    Trish Doyle, the NSW Labor opposition’s emergency services spokeswoman, has said firefighters “must find more than $20 million a year to cut from their already lean budgets” under the cap, which they were not exempt from, unlike teachers, police and nurses.[12]
    Based on the evidence, AAP FactCheck has concluded the claim that $12.9 million has been cut from the FRNSW recurrent budget is ambiguous. A comparison shows the Fire and Rescue NSW expenses budget for 2019/20 is indeed $12.9 million less than the eventual amount that was allocated in 2018/19. However, it is also correct that the budget for 2019/20 did have more recurrent funding allocated to FRNSW than the budget for 2018/19.
    Economists consulted by AAP FactCheck have stated that the higher actual funding in 2018/19 does indicate an effective cut in the 2019/20 budget, but have added a caveat that any funding that should be considered one-off complicates the issue. Further complicating the situation is we are yet to see what additional funding, if any, the state government gives to FRNSW at this year’s budget half-yearly review, which is expected in December.
    The Verdict
    Ambiguous – It is not possible to determine the veracity of the statement, or it has an equal weighting of true and false elements.

    • DT 10/01/2020, 10:04 am

      In my opinion items of expenditure accounted for in a financial year accounting should not be included in a comparison of year to year budgets.

      If an expense is incurred for which a provision to fund was not or could not have been predicted when the budget was produced, a disaster relief expense for example, it should not be considered for budget expenditure comparison purposes.

      Obviously the NSW Fire Aviation owned Boeing 737 tanker-fire bomber is another example of an expense that will not be every financial year.

      • DT 10/01/2020, 10:21 am

        Beware of creative accounting deception.

        The 2013/14 Labor last in government financial year Budget contained items of expenditure for which Labor made to provisions to pay, and when the new Coalition Government announced this after an independent audit had been conducted Labor accused the Abbott Government of mismanagement and borrowing monies they had not forecast to be borrowed. Gonski education grants and NDIS were the main items unfunded.

        But Labor went further creatively accounting a minefield of political issues for their future in Opposition. And they used the hostile Senate government opposition majority to block legislation time and time again claiming Treasurer Hockey was incompetent, and PM Abbott as well.

        The long range accounting deception was to extend the Budget Forward Estimate Years well past the standard period and even now Labor will claim that the Government has made budget spending cuts. Not true.

        Labor’s long range estimates raised spending to well above inflation with a continuing upward trend, like BoM (and others) global warming temperature rises.

        No cuts and noting that the benchmarks are not real.

        During the Howard Government terms Labor claimed that Minister for Health Abbott was responsible for Health Budget cuts, the Labor dirty tricks department spin doctors had used previous financial year spending and compared the first Forward Estimates year spending estimates.

        They noted a cut in Health spending grants to States and claimed a cut but failed to mention that it was GST revenue based, the previous year GST revenue well exceeded estimate (100% distributed to the States and Territories) and that amount was therefore deducted from the Federal Health Budget. The GST tax reform was based on boosting State revenue and accordingly, Federal winding back grants to the States. No more trips to Canberra with begging bowls, only special grants considered.

        Howard Government spending on Health well exceeded the Hawke-Keating Labor terms.

  • DT 10/01/2020, 10:40 am
  • TommyGun 10/01/2020, 12:26 pm

    Dunno about you blokes & ladies but I’m bloody worried about Jack Richards.
    Several homes lost near Corryong, I believe. (Please correct if anyone has concrete numbers.)
    Jack was happily working on repairing his home even while severely ill. I just hope nothing happened to it.

    • Neville 11/01/2020, 10:45 am

      Yair, TG. Hopefully he’s been evacuated and resting in hospital somewhere, unable to reply here.

      • MM Ed 11/01/2020, 11:44 am

        Hi fellas, I have contacted Jack Richards but have no reply as yet. He may well have been evacuated and I prefer not to think about any other reason.

  • DT 10/01/2020, 1:09 pm

    Not my composition …

    There seems to be an ever present struggle for a share of the revenue government collects, not only between states but also between the different levels of government.

    In each year’s budget, the federal government allocates funds for federal programs (such as defence) and for some programs operated at a state level (such as school education, public transport, and hospitals). It has this role because it also collects more revenue from taxpayers than the states.

    The reason for this all relates back to (at least in part) the Australian constitution.

    The division of power between the federal and state governments

    The federal parliament can only legislate (that is, make laws) in certain areas, known as “heads of power”, most of which are listed in sections 51 and 52 of the Constitution. This gives the federal parliament the power to legislate with respect to matters such as defence, external affairs, immigration, invalid and old-age pensions, and marriage.

    In contrast, there is no equivalent limit on the legislative power of the states. The states may legislate in any area. However, section 109 of the constitution provides that where there is an inconsistency between a federal law and a state law, the federal law will prevail. In simple terms, this means that if the federal parliament has made a law dealing with a particular matter, state governments are unable to legislate in ways that conflict with the federal law.

    The federal government’s control of revenue

    The state and federal governments all have the power to collect tax, subject to some exceptions. Notably, section 90 of the Constitution gives the federal government exclusive power over the lucrative revenue streams of customs and excise duties (taxes on goods, such as alcohol, tobacco and fuel).

    Until the Second World War, Australians paid income tax to both state and federal governments. However since 1942, the federal government has been the sole collector of income tax.

    The federal government has also collected company tax for over 100 years, and the GST since 2000. The states could still collect income tax if they wanted to, but choose not to for political reasons.

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull tried to explore the possibility last year of both the federal and state governments collecting income tax, but this was quickly rejected by the states. While the states generate some revenue – for example through gambling, property and payroll taxes and mining royalties – they are unable to collect anywhere near the same amount as the federal government.

    This creates a “vertical fiscal imbalance” between the federal and state governments. Conversely, the federal government is in the opposite position: while the federal government collects extensive revenue, its power to spend and directly fund programs is more limited.

  • DT 11/01/2020, 2:44 am

    Unfortunately on Sky News last night, Chris Smith (Inside The News) interviewed a very well informed now resident of Philip Island, Victoria, and I failed to note his name.

    It was about bushfires and he is another ignoring the climate change emergency ratbags.

  • Albert 11/01/2020, 7:53 am
  • Botswana O'Hooligan 11/01/2020, 9:01 am

    The NAB has a notice on its internet banking page stating that any NAB customer affected by the bushfires can get a loan of $2000.
    You would have to be pretty desperate to try them out for that one but one supposes that it looks good on paper.

    • Peter W 11/01/2020, 9:42 am

      Just BAU for the banks.

  • Botswana O'Hooligan 11/01/2020, 12:07 pm

    The AFP are supposedly on the case of Bruce Pascoe, a professor no less, a faux Abo too it seems, but don’t try pointing that out by commenting in the mainstream newspapers because you would be wasting your time. Someone in the Aboriginal industry alleges that he took money under the false pretence of pretending to be an Abo when he is not, but the damage has been done to young schoolkid minds who have had to read his book (thank you missus Gillard for getting him to write it) If DNA testing is good enough for a paternity suit then surely it is good enough to establish if you are/are not an aboriginal so those claiming to be aboriginal should take a DNA test, and if they moan and bitch about having to prove they are aboriginal as they surely will, the blue eyed ones will protest for sure, cite random breath testing, a test that assumes you are guilty of being over the limit until you prove you are innocent by blowing into a tube. Then we can take it from there, Hindmarsh Bridge, Rabbit Proof Fence, and Dark Emu et al. Always remember that if the “Stolen generation” did exist Australia would be populated with extremely wealthy solicitors and the courts would be packed to the bloody rafters with stolen generation law suits for the next century and beyond. That they aren’t proves the point.

    • Red 11/01/2020, 6:01 pm

      Saw an ad on SBS (I think)…about aboriginal culture etc etc and how they were evicted by whites…usual thing. But Pascoe was mentioned as a reference for aboriginal culture & history. Guess someone needs to tell them.
      Funny how they spend so much time wanting to be aboriginal, but appropriating ‘European & white’ culture is the get go. I could laugh but it is so sad.

      • Albert 12/01/2020, 10:35 am

        This morning’s papers tell us that the Kangaroo Cape Man, Ken Wyatt, says we shouldn’t disrespect Bruce Pascoe.???????

      • DT 12/01/2020, 11:40 am

        Albert the KCM says if Pascoe says he is indigenous then KCM believes him.

        Of course that is all the identification the Aborigine Industry applies to claimants, and then the gravy train seat is allocated to them.

        No way could modern DNA testing be used.

        Over a decade ago I was holidaying with friends and one a school student tutor with private clients. One afternoon I was asked to take note of the blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin tall young man who was due for his lesson. Afterwards it was explained that his mother and aunty had researched and found a distant indigenous ancestor and on that basis had registered for indigenous financial assistance including private tutoring fees. His father was embarrassed.

  • DT 12/01/2020, 11:36 am

    Bush Fire Control in Australia (1961)

    In this post, we challenge the claims that the recent bushfire activity (early in the season) is a result of climate change.

    Thanks to Mr. Roger Underwood, Bushfire Front for this information.

    The recent bushfires in NSW are not in “mid winter”, where they occurred as suggested by many.

    The bushfire season in mid-NSW always starts earlier than in southern Australia, with bushfires around Sydney and in the Blue Mountains historically occurring at this time of the year.

    People forget how far north Sydney is (latitude), being closer to a sub-tropical than a temperate climate.

    Every year when there are bushfires around Sydney in August or Sept, the cry goes out “Climate Change! Bushfires in mid-winter!”, while history and climatic zones are ignored.

    Mr. Underwood said in an email shared with the VFFA that he remembered, when he was a forestry student in Canberra in 1962, he did a course in bushfire management. The lecturer was the doyen Alan McArthur, and the textbook was by the famous NSW forester Harry Luke.

    The textbook was called Bush Fire Control in Australia (1961). Mr. Underwood still has a copy.

    On page 20 there is an excellent map of Australia showing the bushfire seasons. South-eastern Qld and central coastal NSW are clearly shown as having an occasional August / September fire season start.

    It is worth noting that the weather varies from year to year, the diagram shows the average situation.

    When you take notice of the date that this textbook was published (well over 50 years ago), these fires are nothing new. The intensity of the fires is increasing because of fuel loads and the drought in NSW will impact upon bushfire conditions.


  • DT 12/01/2020, 3:00 pm
  • Biking Voter 13/01/2020, 10:30 am

    The ADF is providing the following support:

    • From November 17 to December 15, The Army provided logistical support for 250 firefighters at the RFS staging ground in the Northern Rivers Region.
    • From November 12, the Lismore Depot of the 41st Battalion, Royal New South Wales Regiment, has been available to provide logistical support to firefighters from outside the region.
    • New South Wales RFS have multiple large aerial tankers and spotter aircraft at RAAF Base Richmond.
    • Since November 29, HMAS Albatross has helped with water refuelling and retardant loading of aircraft from the Nowra Naval Air Station.
    • From November 8 to December 22, The Air Force is providing airlift support to move large groups of firefighters and their equipment.
    • From November 26 to December 23, The Army is providing NSW RFS with ground logistic support for the movement of vehicles, stores and equipment in the Casino and Hawkesbury areas.
    • From December 3 to January 26, The Army is providing support at Marrangaroo Training Area to NSW RFS helicopter assets and personnel.
    • From December 3-16, The Army is providing logistics support at Marrangaroo Training Area to NSW Rural Fire Service assets and personnel.
    • 41st Battalion, Royal NSW Regiment, will support RFS Casino flight line with loading of fire retardant at Casino airport.
    • On December 10, a Royal Australian Navy helicopter provided support to NSW RFS to fly day and night missions from Naval Air Station.
    • Defence is hosting refuelling assets. This support is on an as-required basis.
    • A Royal Australian Air Force 737 Boeing business jet transported ACT Rural Fire Service firefighters from Canberra to North Coast on November 8.
    • A Royal Australian Air Force C-130J Hercules aircraft transported firefighters and their equipment from Adelaide to North Coast on November 9.
    • A Royal Australian Air Force C-130J Hercules aircraft transported firefighters and their equipment from Hobart to North Coast on November 10.
    • A Royal Australian Air Force KC-30A multi-role tanker transport aircraft transported 150 firefighters on November 14.
    • Two Royal Australian Air Force KC-30A multi-role tanker transport aircraft transported 258 firefighters and their personal equipment on November 15.
    • A Royal Australian Air Force C-17A Globemaster aircraft transported 165 firefighters and their equipment, using two flights, from Melbourne to Coffs Harbour on November 17.
    • The same aircraft then transported an additional 130 firefighters and their equipment from Coffs Harbour to Melbourne on November 18.
    • A Royal Australian Air Force C-17A Globemaster aircraft transported 130 firefighters from Melbourne to RAAF Base Richmond on November 19.
    • A Royal Australian Air Force C-130J Hercules aircraft transported 140 firefighters and their equipment from Melbourne to Coffs Harbour on November 20.
    • A Royal Australian Air Force C-130J Hercules aircraft transported 167 firefighters and their equipment from Coffs Harbour to Melbourne on November 21.
    • On November 18, 21 and 22, Army supported Queensland Fire and Emergency Services helicopter operations at Borneo Barracks, near Toowoomba. This support is now complete.
    • From November 11-13, Singleton Army Barracks provided accommodation and catering support to about 200 firefighters from the Victorian Country Fire Authority.
    • From November 12-14, two MRH-90 Taipan helicopters from the Royal Australian Navy and two S-70 Black Hawk helicopters from the Australian Army provided movements for Rural Fire Service strike teams.
    • From November 12-13, the Royal Australian Navy provided two MH-60R Seahawk helicopters to fly night missions from Sydney and Coffs Harbour to facilitate the operation of Rural Fire Service air observers.
    • Two EC135 helicopters from the Royal Australian Navy and two S-70 Black Hawk helicopters from the Australian Army flew in support of New South Wales Rural Fire Service impact assessments on November 14. This support is now complete.
    • From November 12-16, RAAF Base Williamtown provided refuelling and water re-supply support to a large aerial tanker from the New South Wales Rural Fire Service.
    • From November 13-23, RAAF Base Richmond provided accommodation and catering support for varying numbers of between 150 and 300 firefighters.
    • From November 18-19, the Army’s Borneo Barracks near Toowoomba established a helicopter-landing site, overnight parking and refuelling capability for firefighting and support to civilian rotary-wing aircraft.
    • On November 21, a New South Wales Rural Fire Service large aerial tanker was refuelled at RAAF Base Edinburgh after a mission was completed in South Australia.
    • On November 26, RAAF Base Gingin provided 18,900 litres of water to two water bombers fighting a fire in the vicinity of Yanchep.
    • On December 3-4, HMAS Albatross provided catering and accommodation for RFS NSW at Naval Air Station Nowra.

    This support is been provided in a co-ordinated fashion in conjunction with the State Governments.


  • Aktosplatz 13/01/2020, 2:49 pm

    With Regard to the latest debacle concerning Harry and Me-Again, the news I am getting from the UK is that the Royals are ignoring the fact that ‘Ginge and Cringe’ have actually declared war on the public as well. ‘Stepping Back’ means stepping back from the public, have they realised that?

    Hilary Clinton stepped back from the public when she labelled some of them ‘deplorables’.

    Boos or low turnouts are likely if they stay on. I think this has gone too far already, and now it is alleged they are threatening to ‘tell all’ on Oprah’s Show is a blindly foolish thing to do.

    Blackmail is still a crime in the UK and in the USA.

  • Albert 14/01/2020, 8:47 am

    I see Greg Combet, that useless ex-Labor minister in the Rudd/Gillard governments who never had a real job, is giving us a good talking to about climate change.


    • DT 14/01/2020, 10:05 am

      He was responsible for the carbon tax and on radio admitted that 10% of the revenue was being sent to the UN.

      When pressed further to explain the carbon tax purpose he admitted that in the future there would be an emissions trading scheme to replace the carbon tax, and when asked how that would operate he admitted Labor’s plan was to participate in the EU Emissions Trading Scheme, so our tax revenue would be sent to Europe.

      Another wealth creation scheme to steal our wealth.

  • DT 14/01/2020, 10:01 am

    We are being misled by the BoM and it appears that they get away with it because the climate change hoax is officially condoned.


  • DT 14/01/2020, 10:35 am
    • Cliff 15/01/2020, 6:47 am

      I see they couldn’t resist slipping in the ‘invaded’ word.

      I think it’s time we accepted this and demanded everything back from Eddie Mabo AND, as certified invaders, as per UN convention, stopped ALL handouts to the conquered people.

  • PeterW 14/01/2020, 7:22 pm

    Anyone else sick to the back teeth of that bloody Trivago ad?
    I will NEVER use that after the brainwashing.
    Check “booking.com” THEN phone the accommodation yourself guys.

    • Cliff 15/01/2020, 6:44 am

      Apparently, they inflict her upon the Poms as well, and if my Brit friends are anything to go by, she annoys them even more than she does us.

      • PeterW 15/01/2020, 8:31 am

        This is an American company is raking in billions from around the world. Everytime you “click” its 10 cents and a booking is 1.30. So if you open up 10 hotels then decide on one, they get 2.30. Image having 2 billion people playing with the site. Money every country is losing.

    • Biking Voter 15/01/2020, 1:57 pm

      Have a looksee here and see what Dick Smith had to say about these foreign vultures that are bleeding small business owners dry.


  • Finn 15/01/2020, 6:33 am

    Someone produced a snippet where an expert was talking about the Fraser government spending about $12 million on fire issues.

    If anybody can remember, could they directed to me.? Sorry to be a pain

  • DT 15/01/2020, 9:04 am
  • DT 16/01/2020, 4:23 am

    National Energy Guarantee.

    The NEG is again being discussed and note that Opposition Leader Albanese and his Labor comrades support it, so it must be bad for us.

    PM Mansion and friends created the NEG, so here is the story at the link below “National Poverty Guarantee”;


    • DT 16/01/2020, 5:35 am

      18th June, 2018 – The Australian newspaper reports that the Turnbull Government (via its ‘Energy Security Board’) secretly told a group of expert advisors to power companies and large industrial energy users that its so-called “National Energy Guarantee” (NEG) policy is a carbon dioxide emissions intensity trading scheme “by stealth” that would favour wind and solar power. The government forced these people to sign confidentiality agreements to prevent the information becoming public.

      Economics professor Judith Sloan says:

      “[The NEG] knocks out coal and…knocks out gas….It’s an ongoing subsidy to renewable energy.”

      …….. Another example of investors for profiteering being supported by politicians.

  • PeterW 17/01/2020, 6:50 pm

    ABC Eric Campbell in Europe doing a report on the decline of insects. Wonder how much this is costing us?
    Hires a vintage VW Beetle for the duration.
    Time we demand to see the bills.

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