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 It’s not over

13.11.20. Even among my good friends with whom I share a conservative view a few have said Trump should acknowledge defeat. Their logic being if Trump wins after recounts it could start a civil war. They don’t consider that giving up would cause even more strife. By fighting on and removing as many as possible fraudulent votes, of which there is clearly many, the election would be seen as fair by both sides. Not to “clear the air” regardless of the outcome, will cause greater problems for both sides. Can you imagine what would happen here if our Government won by a few votes in a couple of seats and it was demonstrable that some fraud happened in those seats? Fraud in Australia, couldn’t happen? Of course, it could though less likely on a mass scale due to our compulsory voting requirement but if it does it could take months before it was identified by which time the Government would be sworn in. At least, in the US, there is time to check things out before the next president is sworn in. Townhall’s Rachel Alexander discusses the fraud:
The MSM called the election for Joe Biden on Saturday. The MSM has been full of fake news during the Trump presidency, so why should we believe them now? They don’t decide the election; the electors do. The alleged election fraud is currently being litigated, and the Supreme Court has already stepped in, so it’s far from clear yet how to report the results to the electors.
Look how the MSM dealt with a similarly contested election in 2000, where they showed their obvious bias favoring Democratic candidate Al Gore. First, the MSM wrongly called Florida for Gore on election night, so eager were they for Gore to win. Then, later on in the night, the MSM was forced to retract the call and called the state for George W. Bush instead. But even though Bush won, due to the fact the count was being contested, the MSM retracted that second projection around 4 a.m., not even hesitating to leave it hanging out there a minute longer. The Florida controversy was not settled until the Supreme Court’s decision on December 12, 2000, and they held off calling it again until then. So why is the MSM calling the election for Biden now?
The MSM knows if it keeps the pressure up, shaming people into feeling like they’re chasing conspiracy theories, that conservatives will back down from challenging the results. They’ll start worrying about being added to a list of targets the Democrats have started accumulating, putting their jobs and reputations at risk. They’ll stop contributing to the lawyers fighting the fraud. Prominent influential conservatives are already being silenced. Why else would Fox News host Laura Ingraham tell Trump that he should accept the outcome with “grace and composure?” She saw what happened to fellow anchor Judge Jeanine’s show, which was canceled on Saturday.
But the reality is there is such an incredible amount of fraud it would be impossible to list it all in one column. Third world level election fraud? Yes. It’s a repeat of the Kenyan presidential elections in 2007 and 2017. In 2007, the anti-corruption candidate, Raila Odinga, was winning on election night. In the middle of the night, the power went out around the country. A few hours later, incumbent Mwai Kibaki had taken the lead. A U.S. exit poll found that Odinga had really won by six percent. In 2017, Odinga ran again. Due to hacking of the voting machines, incumbent Uhuru Kenyatta was declared the winner. Odinga appealed to the Supreme Court, which ordered a new election due to the hacking. But without enough guarantees to stop the election fraud, Odinga gave up and dropped out of the race.
There is too much fraud here — concentrated in the swing states — to list in one column. Voting machine irregularities that coincidentally tipped the vote to Biden. Dead people voting. Almost as many people over 90 registered to vote this year than that age group did in all of 2008-2019 combined. A Pennsylvania mailman who said he was ordered to collect late ballots, and four postal workers who said they were told to change the date on ballots. Election workers counting ballots without verifying signatures. Videos of election officials filling out ballots. More people voting than registered voters in some areas. Wide discrepancies between Trump and down-ticket votes; former Justice Department prosecutor Sidney Powell said about swing states, “We’ve identified 450,000 ballots that Miraculously ONLY have a Vote for Joe Biden.” Biden underperformed in big cities in blue states compared to Hillary Clinton in 2016, yet Biden had record turnout in big cities in swing states.
Trump won a larger percentage of the black vote, female vote, minority vote, Jewish vote and gay vote than he did in 2016. Republicans won 28 of the 29 most competitive House seats (and likely more as results come in), took control of three more state legislatures and probably kept control of the Senate. How did Trump and the GOP do this historically well yet lose the presidency?
I’ve been heavily involved in Arizona politics since 1996. It doesn’t make any sense that the state went for Biden. The most accurate pollster in 2016, Rasmussen Reports, had Trump up by four points in the last poll before the election this year. That’s outside the margin of error. The GOP kept control of the legislature, Rep. David Schweikert won reelection in a close race, and the GOP looks to be winning both the Maricopa County Attorney and Recorder races. There are no significant signs the Democrats did well here.
This is far from over. The legal fight can go on until December 8. Then, the Electoral College votes on December 14. The House tallies the votes on January 6. If the Republican-controlled Senate disputes the electors from a state, that could throw the vote to the House, where each state delegation would get one vote for president. Since Republicans have a majority in state delegations, they could prevail. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might object, but ultimately the Supreme Court gets to decide.
Conservatives have complained about election fraud for years, usually in smaller races where no one was punished, so they were labeled conspiracy theorists. But now it’s become mainstream. Now, the biggest race in the country, involving the most powerful Republican in the world, has been destroyed by election fraud. Will Republicans continue to challenge some of the most serious felonies in our country’s history, which are destroying the foundation of this country, or will they succumb to the pressure of the MSM and its comrades in the Democratic Party? People go to prison for election fraud. The MSM is not your friend. This is not about whether you like Trump’s “style,” as the MSM has fooled everyone into thinking. We will never have a perfect president. This is about the last gasp of the United States as we know it.

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  • Muphin 13/11/2020, 5:47 am

    The Pennsylvania Republican House majority leader has declared the will be NO certification of the ballot until a full manual audit of all votes is done.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/the_real_election_trump_card_refuse_to_certify.html

  • Cliff 13/11/2020, 6:08 am

    Surely, if the assurances we are receiving almost hourly from the MSM are correct they all allegations of voter fraud have been universally dismissed by every court in the land, it is in the (future?) Biden Government’s best interest to put the doubts of naysayers to rest by allowing a full double checking of the votes in all the counties where allegations of voter fraud have been made.

    That’s if there really is “nothing to be seen here; move along”.

  • Ian 13/11/2020, 6:58 am

    Sorry for the long comment, this has been on my mind for some days. How can this be fixed? So far we know that: –
    * There are an unknown number of votes received that may or may not be fraudulent having been remarked in the tally room.
    * There may be votes received from registered, yet dead people, clearly these are fraudulent.
    * There may be votes received in large blocks that all go to one candidate and are suggestive of voter fraud, either the alternate votes were collected and removed prior to entering the tally room or the votes have been generated by a person(s) purely as a fraud.
    * There may be voting count glitches where scanned votes where allocated to the wrong candidate.
    * There may be votes filled out after the closing of voting and submitted late.

    A manual recount will only fix the glitched count. So it is NOT a good solution to the problems noted above.

    A comparison of registered votes received against births, deaths and marriages will only tell you how many votes should not be there, not who they voted for. And hence these errors can’t be removed from the count.

    The late votes may or may not go to one candidate and even if the numbers can be determined, which votes are to be removed, the papers were all mixed in with valid votes and hence can’t be quickly removed, if at all.

    Votes received in large blocks all for one candidate seems implausible but it is NOT impossible. Imagine a person going to all the senior citizen and homeless centres and he/she senses which way you will vote, then gives you a form, (or not). Alternatively, they watch you vote and destroy any that voted the wrong way. One act is legal the other is not.

    So what to do….. I’d look at the number of provable fraudulent votes, eg dead people, people who voted twice, etc. If the sum of fraud exceeds the recounted winning margin, then hold another vote. This time using ALL the processes available to remove doubt.
    * Assess all registered voters. Remove all non-compliant, duplicates, pets etc.
    * Match all votes received to a signature on file for a registered voter. Fine any who double vote. Exclude any non registered electors.
    * Permit voting in person or by mail under strict date based controls and audit this process.
    * Introduce a bar code to all ballots that would permit the voter, (only), to review their vote had been received and allocated correctly.
    * Undertake a manual vote count with scrutineers available to watch via video only from a remote site. All videos to be kept on file for later review.
    * No marking of ballots by the counting team inside the tally room.

    I’m sure that there could be a lot more controls installed but this is a good start.

    BUT why hasn’t this been put in place already? Why are we seeing fraud in 2020 unless one or both teams want it?

    • Ozman 13/11/2020, 7:04 am

      Ian, voter ID along with paper ballots and scrutineers permitted to watch the count. That is all that is needed.

      • luk1955 13/11/2020, 8:23 am

        The conjob19 illness was designed to allow mail in balloting, which is the easiest and least troublesome way to steal an election. There was cooperation between Biden’s business interests in China, the demoncraps, and the deep state because all 3 hate Trump with a passion. That’s why conjob19 is called a plandemic and not a pandemic. This was listed as the 4th way to remove Trump, which was put out in January 2017. The 5th way is assassination of Trump.

      • PW 13/11/2020, 9:48 am

        Yes OZman, as someone said before, we here in Oz all have Medicare Cards. Sure you might use someone else’s but it is just ONE vote that would be counted. Align that number and cancel it for future votes.
        Always keep your Australia Card (Medicare Card) safe and on yourself.
        Don’t know if USA residents have one simple “National” ID card as we have. I believe all Western Democracies need these to have a democratic election.

    • luk1955 13/11/2020, 8:26 am

      In Penn, the state Supreme Court rewrote the election law to allow late voting. In the US, courts cannot make or rewrite legislation. Only legislators can do that. Called separation of powers. So the Pa. SC has broken the law and was clearly siding with lawbreakers and cheaters.

  • Ozman 13/11/2020, 7:01 am

    Sidney Powell said about swing states:
    “We’ve identified 450,000 ballots that Miraculously ONLY have a Vote for Joe Biden.”

    Blatantly obvious! The more people who know of this, the more people will talk of this.

  • Penguinite 13/11/2020, 7:55 am

    Long will Bygone remember 13/11/2020. It’s the day his chickens start to return to the roost! All those premature congratulators, including Scomo, will be attempting to re-est. ablish their connections in the US.

  • Disgruntled 13/11/2020, 8:52 am

    The whole bloody thing looks, sounds and smells just like a HUGE CONSPIRACY hatched some time ago eh????

    Biden—-China—-Covid—-elections!!!! worked well didden it!!!

    Just sayin; I never believed in conspiracys; Don’t know now!!

    • Ozman 13/11/2020, 2:19 pm

      That’s because animals don’t conspire to defraud. Goes on all the time in the human world.

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