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As far as many credentialed climate science experts go ‘the science’ is not settled at all. In fact, when considering reports hatched by the IPCC, sloppiness should be their motto as the following information might suggest. It was during this week when a Dr Bill Lindqvist called Alan Jones on Sydney radio 2GB and spoke about his application to the IPCC to be accepted as an expert reviewer. What Dr Lindqvist said in two minutes will surprise all but the rusted on Wamistsas and those in the climate industry taking us all for an expensive ride. There is also an article herein that never got traction by Mark Landsbaum published in the Orange County Register California on December 14, 2007. There are many other threads that could have been woven into this story if time permitted. However, the reader will decide given this and past knowledge of the IPCC’s controversial history, the East Anglia saga in particular!

Mining expert invited to sit on climate change panel… after he applied as a joke

Source: 2GB

A mining expert, who applied to sit on a climate change panel as a joke, was accepted despite his lack of expertise in the area.

Doctor Bill Lindqvist wanted to test out the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s vetting processes.

He applied to sit on their expert panel three years ago and was shocked by their response.

Dr Lindqvist has a Bachelor of Science and a Ph.D in mining geology, but he hasn’t published any papers or research on climate science.

Apparently, that didn’t matter to the international climate body.

“I just did it for a lark,” Dr Lindqvist tells Alan Jones.

“I received a formal invite after my application was accepted to become an expert reviewer.

“I never followed it up because I had better things to do.

“Several of my colleagues, of course, were expert reviewers… all their comments were thrown out because they didn’t conform with the dogma of the IPCC.”

Dr Lindqvist says he can’t believe how slack their vetting process was.

“It was just absurd really. There was no vetting, no quality control, no nothing.”

2GB sound clip!

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“THE MANHATTAN DECLARATION ON CLIMATE CHANGE”

“That world leaders reject the views expressed by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as well as popular, but misguided works such as “An Inconvenient Truth”.
“That all taxes, regulations, and other interventions intended to reduce emissions of CO2 be abandoned forthwith.”

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The following 206 Manhattan Declaration endorsers are climate science specialists or scientists in closely related fields (this is a subset extracted from the other lists): It verifies Dr Lundqvist’s authenticity as he stated to the IPCC. Also find Australian scholars marked in bold.

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Global warming! Act fast!! Wait a minute, not so fast…

By MARK LANDSBAUM | letters@ocregister.com | Orange County Register

December 14, 2007 at 5:46 pm

From Mark Landsbaum

OK, OK, we know the story. The world’s going to hell in a handbasket in a hurray. An increasingly warm handbasket, as the story goes.

But what if that’s all hype and mistakes? That’s exactly what these 100 prominent scientists say about the global warming hysteria.

Not only is it futile to try to stop the climate from changing, they say, the science on whether man is making things hotter is certainly not settled, and the proposed Draconian remedies will be far more devastating to mankind and civilization than a degree or two on the thermometer.

Not only that, but there is no consensus on on even the final reports drafted by the IPCC, in large part because they were prepared by a small core of writers and then approved by government representatives, not the people who did the original research.

These 100 folks, who include IPCC expert reviewers, call on the U.N.-sponsored global warming conference in Bali to vote for economy retarding restrictions based on the “increasingly alarming conclusions” about manmade CO2.

For the whole letter and list of the scientists who signed it, read on…

Over 100 Prominent Scientists Warn UN Against ‘Futile’ Climate Control Efforts

“Significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming.”

BALI, Indonesia – The UN climate conference met strong opposition Thursday from a team of over 100 prominent international scientists, who warned the UN, that attempting to control the Earth’s climate was “ultimately futile.”

The scientists, many of whom are current and former UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) scientists, sent an open letter to the UN Secretary-General questioning the scientific basis for climate fears and the UN’s so-called “solutions.”

“Attempts to prevent global climate change from occurring are ultimately futile, and constitute a tragic misallocation of resources that would be better spent on humanity’s real and pressing problems,” the letter signed by the scientists read.  The December 13 letter was released to the public late Thursday. (LINK)

The letter was signed by renowned scientists such as Dr. Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists; Dr. Reid Bryson, dubbed the “Father of Meteorology”; Atmospheric pioneer Dr. Hendrik Tennekes, formerly of the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute; Award winning physicist Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu of the International Arctic Research Center, who has twice named one of the “1000 Most Cited Scientists”; Award winning MIT atmospheric scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen; UN IPCC scientist Dr. Vincent Gray of New Zealand; French climatologist Dr. Marcel Leroux of the University Jean Moulin; World authority on sea level Dr. Nils-Axel Morner of Stockholm University; Physicist Dr. Freeman Dyson of Princeton University; Physicist Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, chairman of the Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection in Poland; Paleoclimatologist Dr. Robert M. Carter of Australia; Former UN IPCC reviewer Geologist/Geochemist Dr. Tom V. Segalstad, head of the Geological Museum in Norway; and Dr. Edward J. Wegman, of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences.

 “It is not possible to stop climate change, a natural phenomenon that has affected humanity through the ages. Geological, archaeological, oral and written histories all attest to the dramatic challenges posed to past societies from unanticipated changes in temperature, precipitation, winds and other climatic variables,” the scientists wrote.

“In stark contrast to the often repeated assertion that the science of climate change is ‘settled,’ significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming,” the open letter added. [EPW Blog Note: To read about the latest peer-reviewed research debunking man-made climate fears, see: New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears – LINK – & New Peer-Reviewed Study Finds: “Warming is naturally caused and shows no human influence.” (LINK) – For a detailed analysis of how “consensus” has been promoted, see: Debunking The So-Called “Consensus” On Global Warming  – LINK ]

The scientists’ letter continued: “The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has issued increasingly alarming conclusions about the climatic influences of human-produced carbon dioxide (CO2), a non-polluting gas that is essential to plant photosynthesis. While we understand the evidence that has led them to view CO2 emissions as harmful, the IPCC’s conclusions are quite inadequate as justification for implementing policies that will markedly diminish future prosperity. In particular, it is not established that it is possible to significantly alter global climate through cuts in human greenhouse gas emissions.”

“The IPCC Summaries for Policy Makers are the most widely read IPCC reports amongst politicians and non-scientists and are the basis for most climate change policy formulation. Yet these Summaries are prepared by a relatively small core writing team with the final drafts approved line-by-line by ­government ­representatives. The great ­majority of IPCC contributors and ­reviewers, and the tens of thousands of other scientists who are qualified to comment on these matters, are not involved in the preparation of these documents. The summaries therefore cannot properly be represented as a consensus view among experts,” the letter added. [EPW Note: Only 52 scientists participated in the UN IPCC Summary for Policymakers in April 2007, according to the Associated Press. – LINK – An analysis by Australian climate researcher Dr. John Mclean in 2007 found the UN IPCC peer-review process to be “an illusion.” LINK ]

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Complete Letter with all signatories – As published in Canada’s National Post on December 13, 2007:

The National Post

Don’t Fight, Adapt; We Should Give Up Futile Attempts to Combat Climate Change
Dec. 13, 2007

Link to Letter

Key Quote from Scientists’ Letter to UN: “Attempts to prevent global climate change from occurring are ultimately futile, and constitute a tragic misallocation of resources that would be better spent on humanity’s real and pressing problems.”

His Excellency

Ban Ki-MoonSecretary-General,

United Nations New York, N.Y.

Dear Mr. Secretary-General,

Re: UN climate conference taking the World in entirely the wrong direction

It is not possible to stop climate change, a natural phenomenon that has affected humanity through the ages. Geological, archaeological, oral and written histories all attest to the dramatic challenges posed to past societies from unanticipated changes in temperature, precipitation, winds and other climatic variables. We therefore need to equip nations to become resilient to the full range of these natural phenomena by promoting economic growth and wealth generation.

The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has issued increasingly alarming conclusions about the climatic influences of human-produced carbon dioxide (CO2), a non-polluting gas that is essential to plant photosynthesis. While we understand the evidence that has led them to view CO2 emissions as harmful, the IPCC’s conclusions are quite inadequate as justification for implementing policies that will markedly diminish future prosperity. In particular, it is not established that it is possible to significantly alter global climate through cuts in human greenhouse gas emissions. On top of which, because attempts to cut emissions will slow development, the current UN approach of CO2 reduction is likely to increase human suffering from future climate change rather than to decrease it.

The IPCC Summaries for Policy Makers are the most widely read IPCC reports amongst politicians and non-scientists and are the basis for most climate change policy formulation. Yet these Summaries are prepared by a relatively small core writing team with the final drafts approved line-by-line by ­government ­representatives. The great ­majority of IPCC contributors and ­reviewers, and the tens of thousands of other scientists who are qualified to comment on these matters, are not involved in the preparation of these documents. The summaries therefore cannot properly be represented as a consensus view among experts.

Contrary to the impression left by the IPCC Summary reports:

*Recent observations of phenomena such as glacial retreats, sea-level rise and the migration of temperature-sensitive species are not evidence for abnormal climate change, for none of these changes has been shown to lie outside the bounds of known natural variability.

*The average rate of warming of 0.1 to 0. 2 degrees Celsius per decade recorded by satellites during the late 20th century falls within known natural rates of warming and cooling over the last 10,000 years.

*Leading scientists, including some senior IPCC representatives, acknowledge that today’s computer models cannot predict climate. Consistent with this, and despite computer projections of temperature rises, there has been no net global warming since 1998. That the current temperature plateau follows a late 20th-century period of warming is consistent with the continuation today of natural multi-decadal or millennial climate cycling.

In stark contrast to the often repeated assertion that the science of climate change is “settled,” significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming. But because IPCC working groups were generally instructed ( http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/docs/wg1_timetable_2006-08-14.pdf ) to consider work published only through May, 2005, these important findings are not included in their reports; i.e., the IPCC assessment reports are already materially outdated.

The UN climate conference in Bali has been planned to take the world along a path of severe CO2 restrictions, ignoring the lessons apparent from the failure of the Kyoto Protocol, the chaotic nature of the European CO2 trading market, and the ineffectiveness of other costly initiatives to curb greenhouse gas emissions. Balanced cost/benefit analyses provide no support for the introduction of global measures to cap and reduce energy consumption for the purpose of restricting CO2 emissions. Furthermore, it is irrational to apply the “precautionary principle” because many scientists recognize that both climatic coolings and warmings are realistic possibilities over the medium-term future.

The current UN focus on “fighting climate change,” as illustrated in the Nov. 27 UN Development Programme’s Human Development Report, is distracting governments from adapting to the threat of inevitable natural climate changes, whatever forms they may take. National and international planning for such changes is needed, with a focus on helping our most vulnerable citizens adapt to conditions that lie ahead. Attempts to prevent global climate change from occurring are ultimately futile, and constitute a tragic misallocation of resources that would be better spent on humanity’s real and pressing problems.

Yours faithfully,

The following are signatories to the Dec. 13th letter to the Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the United Nations on the UN Climate conference in Bali [Link to List of signatories]:

Ian D. Clark, PhD, Professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa 

Richard S. Courtney, PhD, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K. 

Willem de Lange, PhD, Dept. of Earth and Ocean Sciences, School of Science and Engineering, Waikato University, New Zealand 

David Deming, PhD (Geophysics), Associate Professor, College of Arts and Sciences, University of Oklahoma 

Freeman J. Dyson, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J. 

Don J. Easterbrook, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Geology, Western Washington University 

Lance Endersbee, Emeritus Professor, former dean of Engineering and Pro-Vice Chancellor of Monash University, Australia 

Hans Erren, Doctorandus, geophysicist and climate specialist, Sittard, The Netherlands 

Robert H. Essenhigh, PhD, E.G. Bailey Professor of Energy Conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University  

Christopher Essex, PhD, Professor of Applied Mathematics and Associate Director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario 

David Evans, PhD, mathematician, carbon accountant, computer and electrical engineer and head of ‘Science Speak,’ Australia 

William Evans, PhD, editor, American Midland Naturalist; Dept. of Biological Sciences, University of Notre Dame 

Stewart Franks, PhD, Professor, Hydroclimatologist, University of Newcastle, Australia 

R. W. Gauldie, PhD, Research Professor, Hawai’i Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, School of Ocean Earth Sciences and Technology, University of Hawai’i at Manoa 

Lee C. Gerhard, PhD, Senior Scientist Emeritus, University of Kansas; former director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey 

Gerhard Gerlich, Professor for Mathematical and Theoretical Physics, Institut für Mathematische Physik der TU Braunschweig, Germany 

Albrecht Glatzle, PhD, sc.agr., Agro-Biologist and Gerente ejecutivo, INTTAS, Paraguay 

Fred Goldberg, PhD, Adjunct Professor, Royal Institute of Technology, Mechanical Engineering, Stockholm, Sweden 

Vincent Gray, PhD, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of ‘Climate Change 2001, Wellington, New Zealand

William M. Gray, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University and Head of the Tropical Meteorology Project 

Howard Hayden, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Physics, University of Connecticut 

Louis Hissink MSc, M.A.I.G., editor, AIG News, and consulting geologist, Perth, Western Australia 

Craig D. Idso, PhD, Chairman, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, Arizona 

Sherwood B. Idso, PhD, President, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, AZ, USA 

Andrei Illarionov, PhD, Senior Fellow, Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity; founder and director of the Institute of Economic Analysis 

Zbigniew Jaworowski, PhD, physicist, Chairman – Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, Poland  

Jon Jenkins, PhD, MD, computer modelling – virology, NSW, Australia 

Wibjorn Karlen, PhD, Emeritus Professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, Sweden 

Olavi Kärner, Ph.D., Research Associate, Dept. of Atmospheric Physics, Institute of Astrophysics and Atmospheric Physics, Toravere, Estonia 

Joel M. Kauffman, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Chemistry, University of the Sciences in Philadelphia 

David Kear, PhD, FRSNZ, CMG, geologist, former Director-General of NZ Dept. of Scientific & Industrial Research, New Zealand 

Madhav Khandekar, PhD, former research scientist, Environment Canada; editor, Climate Research (2003-05); editorial board member, Natural Hazards; IPCC expert reviewer 2007 

William Kininmonth M.Sc., M.Admin., former head of Australia’s National Climate Centre and a consultant to the World Meteorological organization’s Commission for Climatology

Jan J.H. Kop, MSc Ceng FICE (Civil Engineer Fellow of the Institution of Civil Engineers), Emeritus Prof. of Public Health Engineering, Technical University Delft, The Netherlands 

Prof. R.W.J. Kouffeld, Emeritus Professor, Energy Conversion, Delft University of Technology, The Netherlands 

Salomon Kroonenberg, PhD, Professor, Dept. of Geotechnology, Delft University of Technology, The Netherlands 

Hans H.J. Labohm, PhD, economist, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations), The Netherlands 

The Rt. Hon. Lord Lawson of Blaby, economist; Chairman of the Central Europe Trust; former Chancellor of the Exchequer, U.K. 

Douglas Leahey, PhD, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, Calgary 

David R. Legates, PhD, Director, Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware 

Marcel Leroux, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRS 

Bryan Leyland, International Climate Science Coalition, consultant and power engineer, Auckland, New Zealand 

William Lindqvist, PhD, independent consulting geologist, Calif. 

Richard S. Lindzen, PhD, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology 

A.J. Tom van Loon, PhD, Professor of Geology (Quaternary Geology), Adam Mickiewicz University, Poznan, Poland; former President of the European Association of Science Editors 

Anthony R. Lupo, PhD, Associate Professor of Atmospheric Science, Dept. of Soil, Environmental, and Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri-Columbia 

Richard Mackey, PhD, Statistician, Australia  

Horst Malberg, PhD, Professor for Meteorology and Climatology, Institut für Meteorologie, Berlin, Germany 

John Maunder, PhD, Climatologist, former President of the Commission for Climatology of the World Meteorological Organization (89-97), New Zealand 

Alister McFarquhar, PhD, international economy, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K. 

Ross McKitrick, PhD, Associate Professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph 

John McLean, PhD, climate data analyst, computer scientist, Australia 

Owen McShane, PhD, economist, head of the International Climate Science Coalition; Director, Centre for Resource Management Studies, New Zealand 

Fred Michel, PhD, Director, Institute of Environmental Sciences and Associate Professor of Earth Sciences, Carleton University 

Frank Milne, PhD, Professor, Dept. of Economics, Queen’s University 

Asmunn Moene, PhD, former head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, Norway 

Alan Moran, PhD, Energy Economist, Director of the IPA’s Deregulation Unit, Australia 

Nils-Axel Morner, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics, Stockholm University, Sweden 

Lubos Motl, PhD, Physicist, former Harvard string theorist, Charles University, Prague, Czech Republic 

John Nicol, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Physics, James Cook University, Australia 

David Nowell, M.Sc., Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, former chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa 

James J. O’Brien, PhD, Professor Emeritus, Meteorology and Oceanography, Florida State University 

Cliff Ollier, PhD, Professor Emeritus (Geology), Research Fellow, University of Western Australia 

Garth W. Paltridge, PhD, atmospheric physicist, Emeritus Professor and former Director of the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania, Australia 

R. Timothy Patterson, PhD, Professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University 

Al Pekarek, PhD, Associate Professor of Geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, Minnesota 

Ian Plimer, PhD, Professor of Geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide and Emeritus Professor of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia 

Brian Pratt, PhD, Professor of Geology, Sedimentology, University of Saskatchewan 

Harry N.A. Priem, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Planetary Geology and Isotope Geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for Isotope Geosciences 

Alex Robson, PhD, Economics, Australian National University Colonel F.P.M. Rombouts, Branch Chief – Safety, Quality and Environment, Royal Netherland Air Force 

R.G. Roper, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences, School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Institute of Technology 

Arthur Rorsch, PhD, Emeritus Professor, Molecular Genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands 

Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, B.C. 

Tom V. Segalstad, PhD, (Geology/Geochemistry), Head of the Geological Museum and Associate Professor of Resource and Environmental Geology, University of Oslo, Norway 

Gary D. Sharp, PhD, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, CA 

S. Fred Singer, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia and former director Weather Satellite Service 

L. Graham Smith, PhD, Associate Professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario 

Roy W. Spencer, PhD, climatologist, Principal Research Scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville 

Peter Stilbs, TeknD, Professor of Physical Chemistry, Research Leader, School of Chemical Science and Engineering, KTH (Royal Institute of Technology), Stockholm, Sweden 

Hendrik Tennekes, PhD, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute 

Dick Thoenes, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Chemical Engineering, Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands 

Brian G Valentine, PhD, PE (Chem.), Technology Manager – Industrial Energy Efficiency, Adjunct Associate Professor of Engineering Science, University of Maryland at College Park; Dept of Energy, Washington, DC 

Gerrit J. van der Lingen, PhD, geologist and paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New Zealand 

Len Walker, PhD, Power Engineering, Australia 

Edward J. Wegman, PhD, Department of Computational and Data Sciences, George Mason University, Virginia 

Stephan Wilksch, PhD, Professor for Innovation and Technology Management, Production Management and Logistics, University of Technolgy and Economics Berlin, Germany 

Boris Winterhalter, PhD, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, Finland 

David E. Wojick, PhD, P.Eng., energy consultant, Virginia 

Raphael Wust, PhD, Lecturer, Marine Geology/Sedimentology, James Cook University, Australia 

A. Zichichi, PhD, President of the World Federation of Scientists, Geneva, Switzerland; Emeritus Professor of Advanced Physics, University of Bologna, Italy

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  • DT 28/10/2018, 6:45 am

    Prime Minister Tony Abbott understood: “I will not stand for socialism masquerading as environmentalism”. He also recommended to what we now know was his Black Hand Faction dominated Cabinet Ministers that due diligence, that an audit be conducted at the BoM following advice from complainants that BoM media releases did not match BoM record data. His recommendation was not accepted.

    Of course man-made global warming caused by carbon dioxide is a UN IPCC hoax.

    It has been admitted by various UN Officials.

    President Trump has been advised by scientists that the Paris Agreement should be ignored and the US is no longer participating.

    It is disgraceful that the Australian Government and Opposition continue to support the UN IPCC and Paris Agreement.

    And that they both cooperate with the UN agendas that undermine our sovereignty by ignoring constitutional law and imposing them via treaties with the UN.

  • Lorraine 28/10/2018, 7:22 am

    ” are we there yet” so over this climate change hoax, and the Government, a Liberal Government supposed to be highly educated, allow our Nation to be stood on and undermined by the UN. The election of Labor is not the answer as they are bound to do all bidding of the UN, we expect that from Union hacks.

  • Penguinite 28/10/2018, 7:44 am

    The Liberal Party is overrun with University educated elites and Lawyers. The “Broad Church” is not working for the electorate they purport to represent. Their Bell Curve is waning.

    • Aktosplatz 28/10/2018, 2:45 pm

      They (The Liberals) are no longer the Political Party of Compassion that they used to be. They’re all in this for the money.

      That’s the only conclusion you can arrive at after reading the above evidence and testimony.

  • Pensioner Pete 28/10/2018, 8:12 am

    Apparently, all the $$ we paid in Gillards era to stop Global Warming has not worked, given we out here in the politically forgotten outback continue to exist despite what we call the ‘Walpamur Drought’, now in its seventh year. Historical evidence proves there have been very savage droughts before this Global Warming scam, for example the Federation Drought, the Millennium Drought to name two of note.

    • DT 28/10/2018, 8:17 am

      PP since the last major ice age 18,000 years ago, when most Australian Aborigines survived living around Lake Carpenteria and other northern refuges, I understand that there have been many long drought periods here including, from memory, at least one that lasted a thousand years or so.

      The politicians who pretend the science is settled (science is never settled) and that BoM, CSIRO, IPCC sources are believable have only a political agenda in mind, socialism masquerading as environmentalism.

  • sheldon 28/10/2018, 9:33 am

    We need to get the message out to the general population that the greens party that are for massive immigration and also less habitat destruction ,can’t have it both ways . The greens new name should be (habitat destruction party)or (bulldoze flora and fauna party.

    • Pensioner Pete 28/10/2018, 9:47 am

      sheldon: Greens are hypocritical given they predominately live in the South East Corner of Queensland, thus influencing the Labor Government decision making process which affects the rest of the state, for example, the Queensland vegetation management legislation which affects all farming detrimentally. Yet, land clearing under the guise of ‘development’ for housing in the South East Corner continues effectively unchallenged by the Greens, thus the loss of wildlife (koalas for example) continues at unprecedented rates.

  • Aktosplatz 28/10/2018, 2:42 pm

    The only time this Scam has been successfully challenged was when Lord Christopher Monckton challenged ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ as not being scientifically accurate.

    This whole Scam need to be tested in a Court of Law, too many people are making money by legislation, at the expense of the Poor.

    It’s Corruption at its worst, and blatant as well.

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