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 China could smash Australia in war: Jim Molan

24.07.21.  Jim Molan has warned the Australian Defence Force would be defeated within days in the event of a Chinese attack, even with the benefit of $270bn in new military hardware to be delivered over the next decade. The Liberal senator and retired army major-general, who headed the multinational force in Iraq, has urged the Morrison government to go back to the drawing board to rethink the nation’s defence posture. As Australian and US troops sharpened their interoperability at Exercise Talisman Sabre in Queensland, Senator Molan said the belief the US would always come to Australia’s aid had left the nation vulnerable.

Source: Ben Packham, News Corp

Jim Molan friendly fire over China military threat

He said the government – which only updated its strategic and force posture plans last year – was creating an ADF to fulfil the tasks of the past 75 years, not those that lay ahead.
“In relation to what is likely to come down the track, it lacks three things. It isn’t nasty enough, it isn’t big enough and it can’t fight for long enough,” Senator Molan said. “The ADF, even after the $270bn is put into, is unlikely to last even a few days in a high-end conflict with China.”
He said military spending at just over 2 per cent of GDP “in all probability is not enough”. His comments come as the government grapples with the prospect of a major regional conflict within the next decade, without $135bn of planned submarines and frigates that will only begin to enter service in the mid-2030s.
Senator Molan said the Coalition since 2013 had been the best government Australia had seen in relation to national security and defence, but changing strategic circumstances demanded a fresh approach. He said the ANZUS Alliance was Australia’s first line of defence, but US forces were spread globally while China only had to worry about the South and East China Seas.
“An alliance is not an excuse for not taking responsibility for national defence,” he said, noting Australia’s faith in its British allies left it vulnerable in WWII.
Senator Molan reiterated his call for a wide-ranging national security strategy to prepare for the threats Australians would face in the decades to come.
The proposal, which the government has not embraced, would focus on preparing both Defence and civilian sectors, including ports, shipping, supply chains, pharmaceuticals, fuel and essential infrastructure, for a range of realistic contingencies.
He warned “grey zone” activity including cyber attacks and trade sanctions were key threats, along with biological attacks.
Amid growing Chinese militarisation and belligerence towards the West, Defence Minister Peter Dutton recently warned the prospect of a war with China over Taiwan could not be discounted.
The comment followed the 2020 Defence Strategic Update, which said the nation could no longer assume a 10-year warning time before a major conventional attack against Australia.
The accompanying 2020 Force Structure Plan set out a $270bn investment plan to 2030, to purchase new weapons and equipment across all services, including billions of dollars worth of advanced guided missiles.
Mr Dutton said the plan would make “those who seek to threaten our national interests … think twice before doing so”.
“An important element of this is achieved through creating capabilities to hold a potential adversary’s forces and infrastructure at risk from a greater distance,” he told the Australian Strategic Policy Institute war conference.
Senator Molan said the plan would not make any marked difference to the overall size of the ADF, with the addition of just 800 uniformed personnel by 2024.

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  • Bluey 24/07/2021, 6:47 am

    What a disappointment Molan is.
    Rabbitting on about the obvious instead of talking about a defence force engrossed in navel gazing and wokery.
    Wars are not one against one – today’s world is bound in a network of alliances.
    We couldn’t beat China but we could beat Latvia, Portugal, Lithuania, Norway, and a dozen more, if NATO didn’t exist.
    But we can’t beat the wooden top wokes in our defence forces – and most important of all we do nothing about China’s fifth column in our raw material industries and agricultural industries and IP in our businesses and universities. You want to talk about defence? Talk about spying and fifth columns.

    • DT 24/07/2021, 1:18 pm

      Australia probably could not deal with China in a military sense but at the same time based on the logistics involved in an invasion our ADF would cause them damage.

      But considering what Australia could achieve alone is a pointless discussion because we have many close allies and other allies, even Indonesia has a vested interest in Australia remaining as it is. But our defence agreements with India, Japan and US combined would give China nightmares, but then add the UK, Canada and even France, and others joining the defence alliance.

      Australia is a very wealthy country based alone on minerals and energy not yet extracted, and that’s of course known deposits. Would our allies want China to control the iron ore, coal, uranium, rare earths, oil-gas, and much more, gold? And to have control of this vast land mass strategically positioned in Asia Pacific Region, think about why the US maintains Pine Gap NT, one example.

      The potential threat from China and even North Korea and China have been studied for decades, around 1990 the US, Japan and Australia reached agreement that if Japan was attacked their citizens would be granted asylum in the US and Australia, and our nations would defend Japan.

  • luk1955 24/07/2021, 6:56 am

    What our traitors in power don’t understand is that we do not have 10 years. China must invade soon due to hidenjoe’s weakness. JR Nyquist has studied China for the last 30 years and he concludes the chinks have to start the war before the end of 2021 in order to succeed. the chinks only have this narrow window to act in. Ow, it will be too late as the world is reacting against the chink’s demands for land and power. The chinks set the stage for invasion at their behest, not ours. Molan, like others, seem to think we have lots of time to prepare. We do not. The chinks want ww3 and are in the driver’s seat, being the bully is always in the driver’s seat.
    Only a fool thinks we have 10 years. We just do not have 10 years, we are way overdue for ww3.

    • Pensioner Pete 24/07/2021, 7:29 am

      luk: Given the current world political situation and the Chinese Wuhan bio-weaponized virus having a jolly old time, I reckon WWIII is already well underway, only this time the battles are not fought on fields in conventional warfare, these battles are already underway undercover via the web, infiltration into government, business and anywhere the CCP may choose to cause mayhem.

      • luk1955 24/07/2021, 5:15 pm

        Yep I am quite aware of that PP. That’s why I regard the coronavirus as a conjob. A plandemic with the cooperation of several countries.

      • Xi Jinping the Aussie 24/07/2021, 9:05 pm

        Have you read or heard of the book Unrestricted Warfare Pete?

        It talks about exactly what you’re saying. Wars are no longer fought in conventional ways. WW3 has already began.

        https://www.amazon.com/Unrestricted-Warfare-Chinas-Destroy-America/dp/1626543054

  • Cliff 24/07/2021, 7:27 am

    The Chinese won’t invade Australia in some re-make of Saving Private Ryan if their leadership feels the need to overtly take over the country rather than continue with Plan A by buying or leasing it in dribs and drabs.

    If they decide to take over, we’ll all wake up one morning to find our electricity (and everything that runs on electricity, like our communication system) doesn’t work and maybe a couple of airliners landing at Darwin and Townsville that same morning full of earnest young MEN who won’t give two hoots about gender or diversity quotas in their ranks.

    And perhaps except for a few troublemakers who’ll run out of fuel and ammunition within a matter of days, that would just about wrap the show up.

    • Aktosplatz 24/07/2021, 8:34 am

      The Chinese don’t need to attack us, they already have the Labor Party & the Greens (and some greedy LINOs) in the bag . That’s why everything for sale in the shops is made in China.

      They virtually own Australia.

      • DT 24/07/2021, 1:09 pm

        Well no, China investment is considerably lower than the US and UK and I think a couple of other foreign investors here. But now adding Hong Kong to China the combined investment has effectively placed China in a higher ranking.

        Take prime agricultural lands, all foreign ownership accounts for around 13% Australia-wide.

        But without listing examples remember that the powers of our Commonwealth of Australia government enables lands, crops, goods, factories, ports, whatever to be seized if deemed to be necessary, as in a time of military threat to our nation.

    • Bluey 24/07/2021, 10:17 am

      Interesting you should mention about gender diversity when the Chinese arrive, Cliff.
      I was reading the reminiscences of an American G.I. when he landed on Omaha Beach on June 6, 1944.
      “It was something out of hell, the air was full of flying bits of hot metal, the noise was awful, there were explosions. I managed to crawl to a protected area under a cliff and looked around. I choked and my eyes filled with tears with what I saw. ‘where is the gender diversity? I asked myself. ‘Where are the trans-people?’ There were none – there was nothing but men, men everywhere, nothing but men. No diversity of any kind. There were no safe spaces either.’
      DISCLAIMER. No, I didn’t read this, I don’t know what came over me.

      • Richard 24/07/2021, 4:46 pm

        Bravo Bluey, I wish I’d written that.

  • Penguinite 24/07/2021, 8:43 am

    Some worldly commentators don’t rate China’s economic situation has sufficient stability to fight a global war. For sure their apparent military might seems impressive but are they prepared to unleash a self-defeating nuclear cataclysm because the global retaliation will annihilate their habitable lands for a very long time. A war of attrition is afoot, however!

    • DT 24/07/2021, 1:03 pm

      China also has an internal law and order maintaining problem and many of their impressive numbers of soldiers are deployed to keep the peasants from revolting.

  • Popular Front 24/07/2021, 10:09 am

    Yes the CCP are a worry but you must look at the map and consider the massive logistical strain it will be for any PLA invasion force to travel down here, through hostile waters (the Chinese have pissed off every country between them & us) and through the US Navy’s attack submarine screen.

    Remember this very important point: the Christian Lobby is HUGE in America, make no mistake. Regardless which incompetent berk is squatting in the White House, Americans will never tolerate a white, christian, english-speaking country being attacked or invaded by the godless communist Chinese. Never.

    • Xi Jinping the Aussie 24/07/2021, 9:14 pm

      The first point you make is quite good. It will not be easy for them to get down here but I highly doubt those nations would take the risk to protect us.

      Your second point is very misinformed. Patriot American Christians have their own problems. And while they might despair at our Chinese perils they will not come to save us and couldn’t if they tried.

      America is no position to win a war against China in Asia. And good. End the regime. Because America is a conquered nation and it’s corrupt elite do not serve those white, english-speaking christians.

  • nev 24/07/2021, 10:48 am

    It’s not how much money we spend it’s how wisely we spend it.
    It’s whether or not we have the courage to keep the terms of trade equal, when China slaps tariffs on our exports we apply the same tariffs to theirs.

    Senator Molan said the Coalition since 2013 had been the best government Australia had seen in relation to national security and defence….Utter hogwash!
    It’s not the size of the dog in the fight it’s the size of the fight in the dog. If we don’t think so, don’t expect our enemies will either.

  • PaulM 24/07/2021, 10:53 am

    1: Hope the Yanks wake up to the woke, regressive, Marxist plot.
    2: Hope we can do the same.
    3: Hope the NWO don’t beat the CCP in their aims.
    4. Get N Subs real quick.
    5. Let’s all learn to be Australian.

  • Lorraine 24/07/2021, 11:33 am

    I think China is have so much fun ,just rejecting all that we use to sell them buying what they need and can get from no one else,,,Once they have South Africa in the bag they will not need our Iron ore either….Labor and the Greens wish to talk to China, or was it crawl on belly, with the constant bend of the knee. Daniel Andrews is ready to lead Australia , and straight to Beijing.

    • DT 24/07/2021, 1:02 pm

      Similar mentality to the EU elites imposing a carbon tax that will effect travel for we ordinary people, but executive aircraft will be exempted.

      They are all in it together, we are their pawns.

  • DT 24/07/2021, 1:00 pm

    By the way, news today about the US developing a missile client network described as an Uber hire operation, a new system that rapidly chooses the type of missile required and delivers to the enemy lines.

    Earlier news about now three new joint ADF and US Military Bases in the NT.

    A few months ago news about a new joint Navy Base in Darwin Harbour, another Base at East Timor and the PNG Manus Island facility being brought up to date.

    Tindal RAAF Base NT runway is being extended to handle the biggest US bombers and a much larger refuelling and fuel storage facility.

    And major joint military exercises including several other allies to be conducted at least once a year in Australia.

    These initiatives build on joint defence arrangements reinforced during the last years of the Keating Labor Government ended in 1996.

    And another good reason for defending Australia for our allies, China has 70% of the minerals called rare earth and Australia has the rest, and right now processing facilities here are being developed. A few years ago Japan was “punished” by China withholding supply of rare earth orders crippling Japan’s electronics industries.

    Last reason, the US and the UK are the biggest foreign investors here.

    • Rubyred 25/07/2021, 10:02 am

      I believe that the Govt does not need to tell the world all about our Defence capabilities either. In Defence the world should be told as little as possible.

  • Cliff 24/07/2021, 2:03 pm

    I sincerely hope there are no Aboriginal sacred sites or any rare fauna within ~100km of Pine Gap, for if push comes to shove between the US and China, quite probably the very first move by the Chinese will be to (ahem) ‘disable’ the joint US/Oz comms base at Pine Gap – and that will involve turning sand in to glass, and even if every Greens-dominated local council in Australia piously declares their little part of Australia to be a nuclear free zone, Pine Gap and surroundings will certainly not be.

    I daresay Australia’s representative at the UN will deliver a VERY stern note to China in response and (gasp!) quite possibly declare the Chinese ambassador in Canberra persona non gratia.

  • Xi Jinping the Aussie 24/07/2021, 8:58 pm

    The fact that this is some relevant that makes me laugh. Someone with zero military expertise can work this out with brain dead geo-political make. Or even looking at population sizes.

    Australia is a doomed nation, if you can even get yourself to lie and say that it’s a nation.

    How can you even sit there and say we’ll fight China when we don’t have a White Australia Policy and invite the very invaders here?

    That’s dumb.

    Shall we add in the wokeism of our army, the political corruption / bribery operation China runs and the fact they are buying up everything.

    China has absolutely no need to invade. They have already won the unrestricted war. And God bless em, right of conquest and all.

    Australia is a joke of a country. Start applying for visas elsewhere.

    • Rubyred 25/07/2021, 10:04 am

      Get in touch with DT. He supplies facts not suppositions as you have done.

  • John Citizen 28/07/2021, 10:14 am

    Our government has failed over decades to make Australia capable of self defence. We need nuclear ballistic missiles of the most powerful and advanced type – something that china cannot intercept, as well as modern nuclear missile armed submarines – in other words a powerful deterrent force. The U S A should have also given Japan land and sea nuclear missiles to deter any Chinese threat and to serve as a counterbalance to North Korea’s threat. China will not attack if the result is destruction of its cities.

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