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Muslims must own their problem

Will Muslims ever ‘own’ their mess?

How did we get into this deadly mess?

Many in the Western world can still remember international air travel security. Apart from the walk-through scan, when on board all you had to do was ask the hostess for a visit to the flight cockpit. One could enjoy a coffee in any cafe in Europe with no thought of being blown to pieces by an insane Muslim bomber. And so the scourge of Islam appeared and has escalated to were trillions of dollars are being spent to keep us safe around the world. And in the streets of Australia—and that doesn’t always work. How and why in hell did this lunacy get from the fleapits of the Middle East to us? Islamic murderers are a fear that dog us in our daily lives—we are changed, and those bastards have caused that. Our freedoms, our peace of mind and lifestyle changes have taken our innocence and trust of fellow man. All without a rising up in protest from the “good” Muslims—WHY is that?

Source: News Corp

It shouldn’t be Australia’s job to liberalise Muslims

There is a fascinating struggle taking place in Australia over the soul of Islam. The women of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, acting out their pantomime of “permissible” discipline in a Muslim marriage, set tongues wagging.

I say pantomime because surely no one believes the event was not set up to mask the true level of male control in Islam. If you doubt it, look at the laws on marriage, or succession, or rape in marriage among our key migrant source Islamic countries: Lebanon, Pakistan, Indonesia and Malaysia. A striking feature of the laws is that they distinguish the application of the law by religion. Religion first; the rule of law second.

The struggle over the soul of Islam in Australia is taking place in the mosques, in the universities and in public life.

In his book Islamic Exceptionalism, Shadi Hamid of the Brookings Institute argues that “because the relationship between Islam and politics is distinctive, a replay of the Western model — Protestant Reformation followed by an enlightenment in which religion is gradually pushed into the private realm is unlikely … We aren’t all the same but, more important, why should we be?”

Hamid’s call to “respect” Islamic exceptionalism was taken up by the darlings of the ABC, who gave it plenty of coverage.

Hamid also wrote: “If it were destroyed tomorrow morning, the Islamic State would still stand as one of the most successful and distinctly ‘Islamist’ state-building projects of recent decades.”

This is a liberal scholar from a US think tank. Is this the liberal society’s burden, to suffer those who would do us harm?

But even the enemy can reveal truths. Hamid made the point that hoping for the liberalisation of Islam is false. “Liberalism … needs liberals to survive and prosper.”

In this, Hamid is dead right. Importing illiberal minds is not smart. While Muslim immigrants to Australia may want to escape Islamic laws, to what extent do they carry the habits and mindset of authoritarian Islam?

Why should Australia take on the burden of liberalising Muslims? In a multicultural policy setting and amid identity bellicosity what happens when they tell us to get stuffed?

A 2014 study of Muslim communities that have settled around Brisbane’s Holland Park mosque, reported “a marked shift” in the community following the large-scale migration of Muslims from the 1990s. They observed a more conscientious practice of Islam, and a tendency to “Arabise everything”. Some of the (Muslim) participants resented the overt Islamist identity and hostility towards Australia.

A 2014 study in Melbourne reported that 18 per cent of 18 to 24-year-olds conducted their daily life “strictly in accordance with sharia law”.

Others grafted environmentalism to Islam. “It makes me a better neighbour and environmentally aware as there’s an Islamic element to it.” One suspects that Muslim students are now primed to talk of love, social justice and environment to help align Islam and left-greens politics.

As Kenan Malik, in his book From Fatwa to Jihad, observed in Britain: “It is not mosques but universities that provide the real recruiting ground for Islamists.”

Seven imams instructed their flocks in the West Australian election to vote Greens. Today, in Indonesia, imams are instructing their flock to vote against the Christian candidate for mayor of Jakarta, Basuki Tjahaja “Ahok” Purnama, who is on trial for blasphemy.

Some people are leaving Islam in Australia because they find it too oppressive, but others are joining.

Silma Ihram is a Muslim convert and featured last week on an interview with a perplexed David Speers of Sky News over the Hizb ut-Tahrir ladies’ panto. Silma was born Anne Frances Beaumont on Sydney’s northern beaches. Her journey has been a long one: Anglican, Presbyterian and Methodist, born-again Christian, including missionary work, and finally, after a trip to Indonesia, to Islam. At the other end are those jumping ship, which in Islam can have nasty consequences. Ibn Warraq’s book Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out is revealing. Australia has its version at the website, Australian Ex-Muslims.

In Australia, the Atheist Helper website responded to my requests as follows: “With respect to Islam, the problem we almost invariably find is that they have left the religion, no longer believe in it, but are unable to tell their family and friends for fear of ostracism and retribution.”

The struggle within the Muslim community, between liberals and authoritarians, between leavers and joiners, influenced by source-country politics, and local politicians trawling for advantage, is a plague. What Australians must decide is, why is this our struggle

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  • GTD 21/04/2017, 5:08 am

    All without a rising up in protest from the “good” Muslims—WHY is that?

    Because they’re NO GOOD followers of the ideology masquerading as a religion.
    That being Islam.

    Stop importing Muslims.
    Ban building of all mosques.
    Close all Islamic schools ( breeding grounds of hate )

    blind Freddy knows and can see what the problem is.
    Islam – Muslims – FFS

  • Spinbuster 21/04/2017, 5:20 am

    ….. escalated to where trillions of dollars are being spent to keep us safe around the world.
    “Oh yes say the politicians …we won’t let terrorism effect or daily lives!!”

    “What was that about the price of a carton”, say the voters?

  • Spinbuster 21/04/2017, 6:06 am

    I know how to fix the problem.

    1) Research Islam and the effects of Islam thoroughly.
    2) Draw up up list of logical and inarguable points as to why no one should be a moslem or act like a moslem.
    3) Using these truths and inescapable logic, one on one or using group lecture, systematically talk the Islamists out of their faith based belief system and teach them how to be good citizens. They will have nowhere to go because you will be dealing only in facts.
    4) Using Macarthur’s occupation of Japan as a workable example, respect your former belligerent, ask for no reparation and try and integrate them into your society.
    5) Be fair, altruistic and totally truthful in your dealings with them. In all matters, give them reciprocal rights, right of reply, and advice based only on proven fact, thus circumventing any argument which cannot withstand scrutiny.
    6) Assuming 1 to 5 are performed correctly, it will only be matter of time before the moslems desert their religion in droves.
    7) Problem solved, happy days are here again!

    • Lorraine 21/04/2017, 8:58 am

      There is no logic in Islam, facts are forced upon them day in day out,The Koran is their excuse to be who and what they are. problem solved and your happy days is a lie

    • Greg 21/04/2017, 9:51 am

      Nice try, Spinbuster. It is simple, logical and makes common sense. But have you noticed that our politicians and security people don’t even want to start on the first step? Learning about Islam puts everything into perspective but this is too politically incorrect for our public officials.

    • Bill 21/04/2017, 6:27 pm

      When emotion is involved, (and you don’t get more emotion than a Muslim discussing his or her religion), logic goes out the window, which is why this will never work.

      Closer to home, try using logic to convince a teenager “in lurrrve” that he or she is heading for disaster, particularly a female who thinks she can “change” a “bad boy”.

    • Neville 22/04/2017, 1:47 am

      Harry Richardson has already started this work.

  • Bushwanker 21/04/2017, 7:49 am

    ” How and why in hell did this lunacy get from the fleapits of the Middle East to us?”
    The answer is easy……..OIL MONEY!

  • Albert 21/04/2017, 9:05 am

    I tire badly of all the drivel being spoken about multiculturalism by stupid people, including our Clayton’s PM, who are simply too intellectually challenged to understand the true meaning of that abhorrent concept.

    • Joe Blogs 21/04/2017, 9:28 am
    • Spinbuster 21/04/2017, 9:33 am

      Agreed. Which is why I always say Hanson did not divide Australia, Whitlam, Grassby and Pink Pants did that.
      Those who followed are all equally guilty of perpetuating the problem …except perhaps Howard…..who had words against multiculturalism although he did nothing about it.

      • Joe Blogs 21/04/2017, 9:46 am

        Janette probably wouldn’t let him.

      • Albert 21/04/2017, 10:23 am

        Well after all she was PM, JB.

      • Joe Blogs 21/04/2017, 12:23 pm

        Yeah, show us yer titulars, Janette.

      • GTD 21/04/2017, 5:29 pm

        I’m a conservative.
        But it was that fxxkin idiot Fraser that let in the never to work Lebs.
        And wasn’t it our own JW Howard that let in those filthy robbing black b’s

      • Spinbuster 21/04/2017, 6:01 pm

        Yes GTD.

  • #UNexit 21/04/2017, 12:57 pm

    “How and why in hell did this lunacy get from the fleapits of the Middle East to us?”
    The answer is easy…….. 57 islamic member nations of the UN.

  • #UNexit 21/04/2017, 1:04 pm

    The UN is the vehicle with which one world government will implement one parliamentary law, globally. You should be able to guess which law that will be. 57 islamic member nations manipulating policy for decades, systematically destroying Christianity globally through forced immigration, forced integration, “political correctness” to silence critics of islam. The UN seeks control of all land, water, oceans, and people, it also seeks one global religion – and again, you should be able to guess which religion will not compromise (see the UN’s religious arm for more information about the one global religion at http://www.uri.org). There will be no “countries”, just one global society under one law, one religion.

  • Tommygun 21/04/2017, 3:20 pm

    I am sickened by how these Islamic bastards have corrupted and dirtied our country.
    Time for a clean up.

    • Joe Blogs 21/04/2017, 4:16 pm

      No good trying to clean the mussos up until we clean up our own act, TG. Divided we fall, etc. Start with PC and its Marxists and useful idiots.

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