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The latest claim is that replacement of our coal fired power stations would cost around $27 billion.
But to achieve the same generating capacity I read would cost more like $160 billion, and noting that unlike power stations wind turbines are unreliable and unlikely to deliver anything close to $27 billion worth of coal fired power station electricity, essential grid base load.
Furthermore, coal fired power stations worst case operating life is 50-years and with programmed maintenance 80-years or more. Wind turbines provide, depending on operating conditions, maybe, 15-20 years maximum.
So over 50-years of $27 billion power stations wind renewable whenever the wind blows wind turbines would need replacement two to three times, $320 billion to $480 billion cost not accounting for inflation.
And then add the “gold plating” so called factor, that is the cost to consumers of the power lines from every wind turbine installation site to the main electricity grid.
Stop These Things Now.
Don’t be fooled by the reference to dispatchable power, that means other generators on stand by to provide energy when the so called renewables cannot. Gas fired, diesel powered, pumped hydro, battery added cost.
Until the politicians started mucking around, playing Paris Agreement politics, creating a Renewable Energy Target, handicapping existing coal fired power stations with a plan to close them all down over time, Australia had low electricity pricing and very reliable supply.
Both sides are riding the UN gravy train express at our expense.
And too bad about future national prosperity: Tax revenue, jobs, cost of living ….
Ahhh, but you wouldn’t have that warm inner glow that comes with virtue signalling if you got your heat from coal.
Just imagine how smug we Australians will be able to be, rake thin, dressed in wallaby skins (wait a minute, will that be allowed?), living in bark huts (see above – as long as the trees don’t suffer) as we watch the rest of the world go on to die after long and comfortable lives in centrally heated brick houses, totally unknowing how they were responsible for a .0001 degree temperature rise and a (gasp!) 2mm rise in sea levels.
As Tom Foolery admitted, in about 1,000 years.
Hear, hear, DT. Australia with more coal than Saudi Arabia has oil, has the highest electricity prices in the world. The result of one Green premier and PM after another for the last 25 years starting in the 90’s.
There is a hell of a price to be paid for political correctness and green catastrophism
Our long term average GDP growth used to be 3.5 per cent but for some years since the Union Labor Rudd mob formed government in November 2007 GDP growth has been around 2.0 per cent and the national economy struggling with some states basket cases.
One being SA where the RET revolution leading to world’s highest electricity pricing began, including the demolition of shut down coal fired power stations by Labor to ensure that they could not be re-commissioned.
My point is that the damage, the de-industrialisation, the loss of businesses generally, has placed our nation on a dangerous economic implosion that our representatives, not all but most of them, pretend to be on top of, eg they are creating new jobs.
The sooner we rid ourselves of the leftists in Parliament Canberra and at State Parliament level the better chance there might be to recover over time.
Who would have believed that Australians would commit economic vandalism like wrecking the electricity grid base load generator fleet?
Still on the same subject,(AGW Scam) here is an excellent letter-with-relevant – questions to Josh Frydenberg in .Quadrant’, here:-
I wrote to my local state and federal members and also received a vague meaningless reply of no value, propaganda.
I’ve written several different members on various issues and all I get are vague letters that completely avoid the question put to them and ramble on like meaningless communist propaganda.
No News on Lorraine, but hopefully where ever she is she is okay.
Yes. Lorraine and olbluize both.
Somewhere in Victoria, wasn’t she? Anyone nearby?
Ed, you have her email?
As I recall Lorraine mentioned Nhill in western Vic once or twice.
Maybe she just needs a break, folks. She’ll be back venting with the best of ’em when she’s ready.
MM Ed. Re: Lorraine. I recollect Lorraine had not that long ago, mentioned her husband was ill with lung cancer, perhaps this has something to do with her absence.
I have noticed her disappearance too and hope that she is ok. If her husband is ill, then that would be taking her time and energy also.
To all those foaming at the mouth about Assad and/or Russia using “chemical weapons” back in April, here is the official report from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
Pay particular attention to Paragraph 3.
Of course, you won’t see any of this in the MSM…
Spent last night in the company of Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux here in Perth. Sellout crowd of around 500. Their speeches were recorded and when the links are up I’ll share them.
They make a fair comedy duo too.
Nice people; good messages – therefore dangerous undesirables to the socialists.
Can anyone direct me to the article which debunks 97% of climate sciences agree
I am going to memorise bc the leftie idiots and nice peop alike are so stupid that I cannot even ask a q without being called to ridicule.
Have been attempting to find that info, which is somewhere in the Blogscom foolproof filing system. I found it a few months ago but it’s missing again (they come in the night and move things around). Will keep looking, but try googling “97% of scientists”.
Popular Technology.net: 97 Articles Refuting The “97% Consensus”……….
What consensus? Less than half of climate scientists agree with the IPCC “95%” certainty…………
That’s a 0.3% consensus, not 97%………….
Also, the small number of “scientists” involved (number would fit into a couple of public transport buses) were caught plotting to create the hoax when hackers accessed the emails exchanged between them not long before the Copenhagen Conference flop where PM Rudd took too many delegates from Australia to impress
Called climate gate the emails should have been enough to sink the man-made global warming claim. If not then the exposure by (Lord) Christopher Monckton of the doctored data should have. They said he is not a scientist so how would he know. He is not, but he recalculated and cross checked the flawed data against climate and weather historical data from various sources.
Joe and Tom
Thank you very much for taking the time
This is a disgraceful situation;
Shows the level of contempt with the union/ALP holds for the country, the system and us. The fact that they get away with this sort of stuff confirms that their contempt is well founded.
A Crapload Unfair – whoops, A Current Affair did a piece with Lauren Southern. It’s analysed ruthlessly here.
From Lauren in the comments:
‘We filmed for 3 hours. The final product was 7 minutes. Just to give people an idea of how much editing went into this lol.’
Times like this I wish my old mum had the internet. She would have watched that piece and been outraged.
Many years ago I attended an interview as an observer, ABC what is now 7.30 which I recall was This Day Tonight at that time, the guest was a cabinet minister. The presenter was Stuart Littlemore now a QC.
The taped interview took a long time and many times the interviewer repeated questions. When the interview was broadcast it became obvious that editing had taken place with questions and answers mixed around to create a different impression to viewers regarding the minister’s position on various matters he was questioned about.
As a result he refused to be involved in a taped interviewed again by ABC.
Performances fit for a dark comedy:
“The day the wall of water surged through the town taking the lives of 12 people” – Your Honour, that’s something like out of a movie,” he said.
“It’s dramatic stuff. It’s sinister.” Tom Blackburn SC for Wagners vs Jones.
Well no actually true words from the many eyewitnesses themselves…
I am sorry the media has succumbed to the spin and bluff within the courtroom. Wagners could have just walked away quietly after the second Inquiry 2015 but no they had to make a ‘stand’, a very loud ‘stand’.
But as the line goes ‘no guts no glory’ and risking the wrath and fury to reveal things that powerful people, institutions, the media and others would probably not appreciate I embarked on a four year exhausting, frustrating journey to find a ‘cause’. My community deserves to understand the real ‘hand of fate’ dealt to them.
I uncovered a professional, ‘unshackled’ flood expert so a ‘crude’ scientific flood model was commissioned. Here was the perfect opportunity to show that the “innocent battlers” would not lie down but it could not be completed by the cut-off time early July 2015 for presentation of evidence to that Flood Inquiry.
But while hearing the song and dance on the floor and the pretty hydrological models shown to the courtroom and knowing what the contents of my ‘crude’ Real Flood Model would reveal I had to smirk.
After this insensitive statement mocking the eyewitnesses’ words I decided to release the confidential Real Flood Model and Report submission and it does not ‘paint a pretty picture’.
Thank you Ann, and what happened to the inquiry regarding building approval granted by Brisbane Council on flood land alongside the Brisbane River, dwellings ruined by the flood that caused so much death and destruction?
Thanks Ann. As a matter of interest my logbook entry for a flight on January 9th 2011, the day before shows that we made three missed approaches into Brisbane airport and we made a successful landing from the fourth approach. I had been flying aeroplanes all around the World for a living for fifty years back in 2011 and had never ever had to have four “go’s” at landing anywhere in the World, never. The weather that day was the very worst I had ever encountered in all those years, across Bass Strait, in cyclones (18 of them) on search and rescue in many of them, in Russian blizzards, typhoons up in the Aleutians and sea of japan, you name it. We were at forty thousand feet in the Police jet on the way back from a flood relief flight from Gladstone and the radar showed red thunderstorm cells all over, to the east, and to the west around the ranges. Singapore airlines suffered lots of lightning strikes on departure ex Brisbane. Since we were on flood relief I decided to “have a go” to get in because we had stuff in Brisbane that needed to go back to Gladstone (Rockhampton aerodrome was under water) We went into the smallest looking cell on descent and the aeroplane was thrown back up past forty thousand feet in turbulence and although we were all strapped in tightly, my five point harness almost painfully pulled tight I was thrown up and hit the cockpit ceiling and some of the flight instruments failed momentarily. We couldn’t reduce power too much for we needed the hot bleed air from the engines to keep the airframe leading edges and engine inlets ice free so I directed the co-pilot to extend the landing gear and speed brakes. At about forty two thousand feet we were thrown out of the cell and managed to get a descent going with the help of the extended gear and speed brakes out, also ice all over the aeroplane helped. After landing we found that all the paint from the nose cone had been stripped and the landing lights/taxi lights, recognition lights/ nav lights/ beacons etc. were opaque from the driving rain and ice particles. That deluge would have affected all those areas you mentioned by a factor of goodness knows what for I had never seen weather as severe as that and haven’t since. Thankfully, I am retired now and don’t have to brave stuff like that.
I can only try to imagine your experience. As a passenger my worst was flying from Florida to a small regional airport near Los Angeles (forget the name of it) and the foul weather conditions were throwing the Boeing 737 all over the place, a steward was thrown into the rear bulkhead at one point. The landing was very hard and fast, understandably, and the spray made it impossible for me to see the ground.
A far less exciting experience was as a passenger in the co-pilot seat flying in a Piper Navajo twin engine aircraft over the Blue Mountains west of Sydney preparing to land at Bankstown Airport. There was some turbulence but not too bad until the aircraft was caught in turbulence that carried us upwards about one thousand feet.
Thank you for your story.
Letter to PM Turnbull written by a WAPOL Fraud Squad former Sergeant regarding the AWU slush fund, Gillard and more …
Michael Smith News
Check this out …. our government is fudging immigration numbers, arrivals last period according to the ABS was …
That farkwit Milton is a lieutenant (=army captain). He was supposed to be a leader of men. Oh well …
And Milt, old fruit, it’s a timid dog that barks from behind a hedge.
NSW POLICE STOP SOUTHERN OUTSIDE MOSQUE
POLICE PROTECT MUSLIMS, SCREW THE WHITE PEOPLE!
Get rid of these POS MUSLIM LOVING COPS !!
The POS Campsie Police Inspector supporting SHARIA LAW in Laaaaaakemba and the surrounding shithole middle eastern suburbs, Bankstown, Greenacre, Wiley Park , Lidcombe, Auburn, Granville, South Granville, Parramatta, Merrylands, Guildford, Warwick Farm, Liverpool etc . If you don’t know these Sydney suburbs – LOOK them up and draw a line / circle around the and see how far these ME suburbs take up
TURNBULL EXPOSED ON IMMIGRATION: 262,000 COME
F.CK OFF WE’RE FULL !
Our sad excuse for a government dances to the Chinese fiddles:
Fiddles or fiddlers?
Two bob each way, JB.
Two new Parts to the Stop Turnbull website covering The Chairman claytons leader …. and note the several John Howard quotes people who dwell on Howard endorsing The Chairman …. but this is a minor matter compared to what the website now contains;
More on the CON artist Elon Musk .. https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/07/31/claim-solarcity-reported-millions-in-fake-sales-after-tesla-bought-company/
You would be better to go to this web address to get the full story. It needs to be spread all around the Internet.
A very comprehensive timeline of his history from Sydney Grammar School days to present day.
Don’t miss the additional items including three recently added additional to the main sections.
My question ever since I found the website soon after it appeared is: How did the Liberals allow that globalist danger man to manipulate his way to the top?
I had to take a 2 hour (business) trip on a ferry today.
So I downloaded the ‘StopTurnbull’ article to read.
I’ve reached the part where Abbott is knifed. But what I have read so far had me aghast.
How could such a lowlife (if the article is true) like Turnbull be allowed to ride rough shod over everyone the way he has done?
How could he have been allowed to even join the Liberal Party anyway?
How come John Howard sings his praises?
The information is completely demoralising.
I notice Scott Morrison has been a closet supporter from way back.
Congratulations to the Telegraph for finally recognising Tommy Robinson in its story of his release today. That’s the London Tele of course; still no word from the imbeciles down in Sydney
President Trump told the United Nations to stop interfering in the affairs of member nations when he addressed the UN in New York last year ……..
UN’s border farce operation
Peter Dutton and the UN
The UN’s sinister attempt to usurp our immigration policies shows a disdain for our democracy that verges on contempt.
Always ensure you compare your car insurance renewal price. Just received the renewal
for my 2006 Peugeot 206 from Coles Insurance … $50.23 per month which includes
roadside assist. Woolworths Insurance wrote the identical cover and roadside assist
for $37.18 per month. That’s why I shop Woolies !!!
We are protected by our Constitution, federation of states Commonwealth of Australia. The High Court of Australia has the final say. Separation of powers another safeguard?
I have read many comments on various websites in more recent times describing how our politicians are ignoring the Constitution and states rights.
When the United Nations was formed Australian Communist Labor Attorney General Evatt recommended that member nations be asked to sign as many treaties as deemed necessary to enable compliant national governments to get around the laws of the nation by permitting UN treaties to be imposed.
I suspect that since the 1950s, probably since the Whitlam Labor Government 1970s was in office politicians have ignored the Australian Constitution time and time again, and a battle for control between federal and state governments has been taking place.
For example: why have federal and state education departments. Surely federal grants to state governments are handled by treasury and finance in Canberra and state governments are responsible for education and public schools. Why have a federal department and related thousands of public servants? Or is it to do with a future plan of the State of Australia controlled by foreigners, like EU members are controlled but for Australia complete control?
The UN Compact and the UN Paris Agreement are two most recent examples of loss of sovereignty about to be signed or signed and ratified by the Turnbull Government or the Shorten Union Labor next government probably.
We desperately need Tony Abbott and his Group with reinforcements regardless of political backgrounds to save our nation.
National Public Debt, what is the real gross debt total amount?
The GBR grant debacle of over $400 million got me thinking about where the money is coming from given that tax revenue collection is down, it has to be borrowed money. And next, when I learnt that the over $400 million was a budget item for payment in instalments over 7-years I realised that no provision would have been made to pay for over $300 million of the grant in 2018/19 current financial year. And therefore no approval by the Parliament for the $300 million expenditure.
Then I thought about the other hidden debts: NBNCo is a private company owned by the federal government and as such the debt is hidden off government budget. Private companies do not report publicly. NSW Labor used the electricity companies to hide debt that was paid to the government as extra dividends to make the budget bottom line appear to be stronger than they were. QLD Labor apparently also has hidden off budget debts so I assume other state governments also hide debt and related interest liability?
And then grants to the UN and related organisations. I know at least some is accounted for via the foreign aid budget, but is that all? Was the over $400 million said to be for the GBR a Clinton Foundation accounting trick? Not reported condition attached for an amount to be remitted to UN account? After all, recently the UN reported a shortage of cash following the decision by President Trump not to honour Obama grants promised. Did our close associates help their UN socialist comrades out with cunning cash injection?
What are the public service watchdogs doing to protect our monies from crafty politicians who do not represent their constituents and use our borrowed money for self centred purposes? What about the separation of powers and due diligence? Why do politicians get away with ignoring the Constitution, UN Treaties aside for the moment?
We citizens need lots of noise from influential people in our community to hold the politicians to account for their actions and behaviour.
DT: You are spot on about the hidden debt incurred by governments both federal and state. Qld is a prime example on how to do the deed. In my opinion, both tiers of government are nothing less than criminal Cabals, whilst the major political parties are members of the Cabal, not unlike the criminal Cabals we hear about from time to time in the media, for why else would these criminals protect their ‘patch’ (government) so vigorously, and when someone comes onto the scene to present honesty in government they are obliterated – Pauline Hanson comes immediately to mind.
And Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey PP, Chairman Mal and his Black Hand did a hatchet job on the first LNP Government Budget 2014/15 when many or most informed observers were praising the initiatives that included a plan to return to surplus over forward estimate years.
But as Christopher Monckton observed and warned about Abbott was the target of globalist forces because he would not support their climate change hoax agenda and other agendas.
First, check out what the leftist media is saying about the Sky interview with Blair Cottrell.
To read this he is the spawn of Satan, he is a neo-Nazi and his ideas spread hate and intolerance.
Then watch the interview.
Blair argues that immigrants to our country should be skilled and from cultural backgrounds not dissimilar to our own. How radical and far right is that?
God help Australia if sensible commentary like this is to be shouted down and silenced.
Any person right of centre is now the far right, according the leftists.
Yes; but we’re still erudite and they’re still useful idiots – and we’ll all go our graves thus.
From The Australian;
Chairman Mal’s pal says and then another says …
The chair of the Energy Security Board Kerry Schott warns that the NEG could be “off the table’’ for good.
Reef $444m grant ‘unthinkable’
Michael Myer, founding director of the Great Barrier Reef Foundation says it can’t cope with the government’s huge grant.
Huge news announced by Paul Murray on his PM Live show.
From September Skynews with Paul Murray, PetaCredlin, Alan Jones, Poss Cameron, Rowan Dean & others will be available on Free To Air service. About time (provided their policies on the narrative doesn’t weaken & change) Hopefully it’ll provide a huge change to the current weak, biased BS from ABC, # 7, # 9, SBS & the usual lefty suspects.
I guess ABC has been caught off guard as the weeping & wailing has not yet started!
Lastnight on Hot Seat Mcquire made an appeal to raise $1000,000 for children with cancer. Oh how wonderful! A whole one million dollars! Maybe those nurds that want to mess around with the GBR could donate it from the 440 million Turnbull just gave them? And while they’re at it another 20 million to the farmers, so they can, if they’re game to jump through all the bureaucratic hoops, get 24,000 dollars each. But what was the big hurry with those farmers? This drought is only seven years long. Rushing it a bit, Turnbull. Different from the GBR though. They don’t have any problems to solve yet but got the money anyway. Never mind that they didn’t even asked for it, they’re Turnbull’s old pals from his banking days. and it’s not a grant either, it’s a donation, so they don’t have to give any account of how they spent the money. And the chairman of the foundation lives in Switzerland, you can do some nice shopping there. Hey, Liberals? Why in Heavens name is that idiot still Prime Minister, are you all castrated, or what?
Australian icon company BHP Limited is going to build a steel manufacturing blast furnace in Indonesia I read recently.
No doubt it will use Iron Ore and Coal from Australia.
Just after Gillard Labor introduced the Carbon Tax and Renewable Energy Surcharge (plus GST) to our electricity bills a very reliable grape vine told me that in Queensland BHP had developed leading edge technology new blast furnace technology. Exciting advancement.
The bad news was that it was highly unlikely that the first full scale furnace would be located in Australia.
And that before the energy crisis was fully exposed and panic bandaid solutions being crafted to deceive the gullible voters and consumers.
Meanwhile manufacturing businesses around the world’s largest interconnected power grid are being paid not to operate when electricity generation is not adequate.
Australia’s greatest of all liability: Politicians.
My topic is Jacinda Adhern The New Zealand PM.
She’s complaining about our Peter Dutton deporting many violent Kiwis back to NZ.
And that’s it.
She has no idea as to what we are supposed to do with them. Doesn’t she realise these crims are KIWIS?
By the way, it’s the first thing she has said apart from feeding the baby, and flashing her teeth.
So in fact, what does Ms Adhern actually do to earn her substantial PM’s pay?
She doesn’t seem to do anything.
What did she do before becoming an MP?
University student socialist, staffer for PM socialist Helen Clarke and then moved to the UK to be a staffer for christian socialist PM Tony Blair.
Winston Peters is a fool.
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