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457 visas chopped by Turnbull

457 visas gets the chop

Turnbull has axed the 457 temp visa scheme whereby companies hired overseas workers to do a job the company couldn’t find a local lad – or lass to do.
What comes like dash of ice water on your belly while lying sunbaking at Bondi was the thought that a government scheme had been rorted – imagine – who would’a thought?
Goat farmers are near the top of the list which will be a terrible disappointment to thousands of Muslim goat farming refugees.
The 457 scheme, like the road to hell, was paved with good intentions, if Aussie needed trained people and hadn’t any home grown, it made sense. But that was a theory, practice exposed the problems.
MM met a young IT guy from Ireland. He loved the country and so on but said he was bewildered when he went to work with the team of IT’ers – they were his equal or better, why had the company looked in his direction in the first place, he asked. What was more was that back in Ireland the place was full of Aussie IT’ers.
For my money we should not be braindraining other countries, but the problem is more complicated than that. Judith Sloan has ideas:-

Good riddance to 457 visas — they had more holes than Swiss cheese.

All sorts of foreign workers have come to Australia undertaking jobs that could easily have been done by locals. Just ask a few mining engineers in Queensland who lost their jobs, only to be ­replaced by 457 visa holders working on much lower rates of pay.

And do we think Indian cooks are really needed to work in Indian restaurants here? Are local cooks incapable of mastering the required skills?

And does anyone believe that there are shortages of accountants, lawyers, doctors, engineers and another 190 or so occupations that make up the official list of those in short supply? The bureau­cracy must take us for dopes.

Let’s face it, 457 visas have been used ruthlessly by employers ­because it suited them. These workers are compliant and can be paid less, particularly by inflating ­accommodation costs. They are lured here because of the prospect of securing permanent residency. It has been a win-win for employers and 457 visa holders.

The government has been slow to act on this rort. It has been obvious to anyone in the know that the scheme has been misused and abused. For the small number of instances of genuine labour ­market shortage — that will be ­accommodated by the replacement schemes — there have been a much larger number of cases of foreign workers replacing locals.

On the face of it, the two new schemes look much better defined and tighter.

The emphasis on Eng­lish proficiency for the four-year stream is a welcome development.

Criminal checks are also ­important, as is the truncating of the list of occupations.

Australia is not turning its back on immigration by this change; rather, it is ensuring that temporary migrants enter the country on the basis of genuine need rather than simply suiting employers, some of whom are also foreign, and 457 visa holders.

We would expect the overall numbers under these new visa classes to be lower than the current primary and secondary 457 visa holders — around 170,000.

With the current rate of unemployment and underemployment, there is a strong case for local ­employers to source workers ­locally rather than from overseas, as well as increasing hours of work rather bringing in more workers from overseas.

For a detailed list of the 457’s professions and trades, click here – it makes mighty interesting reading.

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  • Spinbuster 19/04/2017, 7:01 am

    Thank you Pauline for your tremendous contribution to the Aussie battler in calling the Lib/Lab dictatorship to account on 457’s.

    We must not be complacent though, all could revert with a change in the balance of power.
    We must never forget the one third of Telstra, the never ever GST and the “no carbon tax under the government I lead.”

    I remember a few years back when your reports of call centres taking away Aussie jobs fell on deaf ears.
    Is the time now right to remind our sanitized Stalins in the Canberra Kremlin that Aussie companies must use Aussie workers wherever possible..

    I am sure one of these smart layers could argue that overseas call centres are 457 visas by another name.

  • Pensioner Pete 19/04/2017, 7:20 am

    Turnbulls announcement regarding the abolishing of the 457 visa is nothing more than a con job when one reads the fine print. To replace the 457, there will be a 2 year visa and a 4 year visa plus the various conditions. Nothing said about training Australians to do unskilled/skilled work, nothing about apprenticeships, traineeships and the like. The way I read it, this announcement is nothing but political bullshit in an attempt to please the polls.

    • Robert TG 19/04/2017, 8:41 am

      I expect nothing better from Malcolm DoLittle.

    • Joe Blogs 19/04/2017, 9:01 am

      Zachary, PP. Blogs has seen many overpaid and/or incompetent dolts on 457s; financial kickbacks to and sexual exploitation by “sponsors” at the owner’s / community’s expense; and exclusivity against Australian workers. In other sectors (except, of course, the political and union sectors), perpetrators would be jailed.

  • Graham Richards 19/04/2017, 7:43 am


    • Penguinte 19/04/2017, 8:12 am

      Agree! So long as it’s not with Bill the Pill Shorten.

      • Neville 20/04/2017, 12:15 am

        Thought we’d all here more or less settled on “Bll Shitten” ?

      • Neville 20/04/2017, 12:16 am

        blasted typos!!
        ** “Bull”

  • Lorraine 19/04/2017, 9:28 am

    at least the 457 visa workers took jobs and paid tax. then applied to stay or got lost and stayed..the new visa is only letting in skilled workers,no goat herders allowed, Australia was in dire need of the goat herders. What will the Muslims do with out their favourite little goats….mmmmmmm

  • Albert 19/04/2017, 12:53 pm

    Let’s not get too excited about Trumbles 457 prattling – it may not be all that it first appears.

  • TommyGun 19/04/2017, 3:34 pm

    Maybe someone in Team Tremble actually bothered to do their sums concerning the next election and noticed the herds of voters intending to vote One Nation?
    Underling: “Perhaps a stemming of the Immigration Rort known as 457 visas might be in order, Sir?”
    Turnbull: “Very good, Smithers; carry on! Full speed ahead!”

    • Spinbuster 20/04/2017, 5:27 am

      That exact thought crossed my mind many times.

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